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I think you have to live in big city and have taken public transportation on a daily basis, to understand the frustations, the dalays, the insecurity, the smell

I think you have to live in big city and have taken public transportation on a daily basis, to understand the frustations, the dalays, the insecurity, the smell, the crowdness, and the freedom reducing of it.

revelation 9y ago
If you don't want any of that, ride a bike. Of course all the fools driving in the city center make that a a rather perilous undertaking, which is why congestion charges like these are desperately needed.
rsynnott 9y ago
I've been taking public transport in a largish city (1.5 million people) for most of my life. I really don't get the problem (except with certain infrequent and unreliable bus routes, but I'd hold that against those routes, not public transport in general). On the other hand, I'd hate to be dependent on a car.
TheCoelacanth 9y ago
I have been taking public transportation for my commute for the past three years and I never want to go back to driving. The stress reduction of avoiding traffic is immense.
kuschku 9y ago
I've been using public transportation every day since I've been 18 (before that, I mostly biked), and I just have to disagree. Transit is so much more freedom than driving or biking for me. I don't have to care about where I park, or the bike getting stolen, or about being stuck in traffic. Whenever I need to get anywhere, I go to the next spot, wait 5min, and just hop onto the next one. It's amazing how much freedom this gives me.
ChiliConKanye 9y ago
I lived in a medium-sized city in the middle of the US for several years (transit not viable option for 95% of trips). Now I live in NY and almost only take transit (every now and then I'll take a taxi/lyft). So I have about 5 years of experience with both lifestyles and I appreciate almost every single of aspect of NY/transit better. Sure delays suck but I just listen to my podcasts and chill, much preferable to gridlock on the interstate. "Crowds" you have to deal with either way, what do you think causes all that traffic? And, I feel I have a lot more freedom. Never have to park far away, never have to remember where I left my car, never have to pay for it or worry about it breaking down or getting broken into, never get it towed, never tempted to drive it after one too many drinks. I can go everywhere I could ever want just as easily or more.
woolvalley 9y ago
You have to live in a dysfunctional city for that to be a reality. In cities that are functional, you only have to deal with occasional crowding.
- hartator 9y ago
  NYC, Paris, London, etc.

revelation 9y ago

If you don't want any of that, ride a bike. Of course all the fools driving in the city center make that a a rather perilous undertaking, which is why congestion charges like these are desperately needed.

rsynnott 9y ago

I've been taking public transport in a largish city (1.5 million people) for most of my life. I really don't get the problem (except with certain infrequent and unreliable bus routes, but I'd hold that against those routes, not public transport in general). On the other hand, I'd hate to be dependent on a car.

TheCoelacanth 9y ago

I have been taking public transportation for my commute for the past three years and I never want to go back to driving. The stress reduction of avoiding traffic is immense.

kuschku 9y ago

I've been using public transportation every day since I've been 18 (before that, I mostly biked), and I just have to disagree. Transit is so much more freedom than driving or biking for me. I don't have to care about where I park, or the bike getting stolen, or about being stuck in traffic. Whenever I need to get anywhere, I go to the next spot, wait 5min, and just hop onto the next one. It's amazing how much freedom this gives me.

ChiliConKanye 9y ago

I lived in a medium-sized city in the middle of the US for several years (transit not viable option for 95% of trips). Now I live in NY and almost only take transit (every now and then I'll take a taxi/lyft). So I have about 5 years of experience with both lifestyles and I appreciate almost every single of aspect of NY/transit better. Sure delays suck but I just listen to my podcasts and chill, much preferable to gridlock on the interstate. "Crowds" you have to deal with either way, what do you think causes all that traffic? And, I feel I have a lot more freedom. Never have to park far away, never have to remember where I left my car, never have to pay for it or worry about it breaking down or getting broken into, never get it towed, never tempted to drive it after one too many drinks. I can go everywhere I could ever want just as easily or more.

woolvalley 9y ago

You have to live in a dysfunctional city for that to be a reality. In cities that are functional, you only have to deal with occasional crowding.

hartator 9y ago
NYC, Paris, London, etc.