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Why couldn't you take a train instead? That area is one of the only places in the US where public transportation is good enough to make that feasible.

baldfat 9y ago
Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Now there was a time when I was 19 and the last train left at 11 PM I the schedule said 1 AM kind of sucked and the next train was at 5 AM. It was with friends from LA and their flight was at 9 AM the next day. You are on the trains schedule so I will have to wait for the train to leave. Usually if I had a quick stop in the city I would make other stops coming back home. Most people HATE driving in NYC and refuse to do it so I am not sure how much this will help.
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Put another way, with congestion pricing, you have two options: * Pay $27-$38.50 (total) for a four hour round-trip on public transit * Pay $26 (not including gas) for a faster trip in a private car, probably about two hours round-trip[0] I'm having a hard time sympathizing with this as a problem, especially since you're coming from 50 miles away. I know people who commute every day from Kingston to Brooklyn using public transit, and that's a full 100 miles. [0] With no traffic, Kingston to Manhattan (100 miles) is about two hours by car each way, so I'll assume that your travel would take two hours for a round trip.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    My WHOLE point is the cost is ridiculous. People paying $5000 to $12000 a year to commute to work in NYC. It also makes it more difficult to get around. I grew up in Danbury, CT and probably 20% of the city works in NYC and I now live in Allentown, PA and know several that work there full time and it takes 30 minutes to get to a train station to NYC. I had one full time job in Manhattan when I was 18 and commuted everyday on the train. I also would have contracted work to do some music or video production and need to be there around 3 PM until 11 PM to 4 AM. So there are certain things that the $11 fee just makes it harder for people to do work.
    - tbihl 9y ago
      So don't you think some of those people would rearrange their lives if they had to face $12k of added annual commuting costs? You'd probably see some increasing density in nearby areas that are still full of 2-3 story buildings. You'd see some parking lots reconsidered. And you'd see people moving to other cities. You'd probably see a whole lot of other creative solutions, too, to the fact that NYC is now allowing its problem of too many cars to be felt by those driving the cars.
    - free652 9y ago
      Move to NYC! Problem solved. And on serious note - local pay NYC income tax, commuters don't.

baldfat 9y ago

Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Now there was a time when I was 19 and the last train left at 11 PM I the schedule said 1 AM kind of sucked and the next train was at 5 AM. It was with friends from LA and their flight was at 9 AM the next day. You are on the trains schedule so I will have to wait for the train to leave. Usually if I had a quick stop in the city I would make other stops coming back home. Most people HATE driving in NYC and refuse to do it so I am not sure how much this will help.

chimeracoder 9y ago
> Time for me to get on the train and go to NYC one way is 2 hours plus, so over 4 hours round trip. It is 50 miles away from my old home. Cost is $27 round trip (off peak) or $38.50 (peak) for the ticket. So taking the train is convenient and I love it but it ruins the rest of my day. Put another way, with congestion pricing, you have two options: * Pay $27-$38.50 (total) for a four hour round-trip on public transit * Pay $26 (not including gas) for a faster trip in a private car, probably about two hours round-trip[0] I'm having a hard time sympathizing with this as a problem, especially since you're coming from 50 miles away. I know people who commute every day from Kingston to Brooklyn using public transit, and that's a full 100 miles. [0] With no traffic, Kingston to Manhattan (100 miles) is about two hours by car each way, so I'll assume that your travel would take two hours for a round trip.
- baldfat 9y ago
  My WHOLE point is the cost is ridiculous. People paying $5000 to $12000 a year to commute to work in NYC. It also makes it more difficult to get around. I grew up in Danbury, CT and probably 20% of the city works in NYC and I now live in Allentown, PA and know several that work there full time and it takes 30 minutes to get to a train station to NYC. I had one full time job in Manhattan when I was 18 and commuted everyday on the train. I also would have contracted work to do some music or video production and need to be there around 3 PM until 11 PM to 4 AM. So there are certain things that the $11 fee just makes it harder for people to do work.
  - tbihl 9y ago
    So don't you think some of those people would rearrange their lives if they had to face $12k of added annual commuting costs? You'd probably see some increasing density in nearby areas that are still full of 2-3 story buildings. You'd see some parking lots reconsidered. And you'd see people moving to other cities. You'd probably see a whole lot of other creative solutions, too, to the fact that NYC is now allowing its problem of too many cars to be felt by those driving the cars.
  - free652 9y ago
    Move to NYC! Problem solved. And on serious note - local pay NYC income tax, commuters don't.