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http://programming-motherfucker.com/ http://programming-motherfucker.com/

by saas_co_de 9y ago

csours 9y ago
I suppose it's as good a programming religion as any other.
make3 9y ago
just saying motherfucker a few times does not magically create a solid argument
- rockostrich 9y ago
  I don't know. Samuel L. Jackson seems to do alright even when he doesn't have Tarantino writing for him.
throwanem 9y ago
Zed Shaw is a treasure. I'm not sure he's all that much of a role model.
- k__ 9y ago
  Well, he's good at heart and knows his stuff. Like all of us, he's just human
- saas_co_de 9y ago
  I don't know anything about the guy but his analysis of agile consultants and agile development agencies is spot on.
- taherchhabra 9y ago
  https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/advice.html https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/advice.html
lwkl 9y ago
That's probably exactly why you are told that you are socially awkward. Edit: I don't know the creator is there a story to this I don't know?
- subway 9y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw
make3 9y ago
do people really pair program in real life? I've never actually seen it
- rebeccaskinner 9y ago
  Just to counter the other responses here. Yes, and it's even more dreadful than you might imagine if you've never done it. I recommend running fast and far away if you ever find yourself interviewing on a team where pairing is the default assumption.
- dudul 9y ago
  Yes.
  - make3 9y ago
    at which company did you see it, and was it everyone
- spinningarrow 9y ago
  Yes, and I highly recommend it! source: used to think pair programming was odd until I gave it a proper go.
- crdoconnor 9y ago
  I find it useful for knowledge transfer. It's a good way of bringing new hires up to speed for the first week / two weeks. If you leave them to their own devices they have a tendency to get overwhelmed and fearful of continually bothering you to ask questions. It's sometimes a more efficient way of building stuff where, for a particular task, you need a whole bunch of knowledge or information that's currently living in somebody else's head. Also, if I'm having one of those days when I feel sluggish having another person there kickstarts me a bit... Defaulting to pair programming for every task - especially when the conditions above are not met is a super inefficient and overbearing way of developing though.
- swagtricker 9y ago
  Yes. Pair programming as the default for me since 2004. I've done it full time for 8 years at an XP shop (Scrum was added later) w/ 3 teams of 20+ total on 3 different continents. Worked for an Agile consultancy and trained people on Pair Programming and TDD for 4 years. I'm now working for an org that does both Pairing AND mob programming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_programming). It takes time, patience, and humility to learn how to do well. I find teams that pair simply build better software that has less bugs. There's literally a book on it to consider (https://www.amazon.com/Pair-Programming-Illuminated-Laurie-Williams/dp/0201745763/ https://www.amazon.com/Pair-Programming-Illuminated-Laurie-W...).
DoubleGlazing 9y ago
Oh yes, this rings true with me. I once worked at a company where the powers that be decided to go all Scrum. They hired a PM to convert all project, inc ongoing ones, to Scrum. It turned an enjoyable job in to a miserable one.

http://programming-motherfucker.com/ http://programming-motherfucker.com/

csours 9y ago

I suppose it's as good a programming religion as any other.

make3 9y ago

just saying motherfucker a few times does not magically create a solid argument

rockostrich 9y ago
I don't know. Samuel L. Jackson seems to do alright even when he doesn't have Tarantino writing for him.

throwanem 9y ago

Zed Shaw is a treasure. I'm not sure he's all that much of a role model.

k__ 9y ago
Well, he's good at heart and knows his stuff. Like all of us, he's just human
saas_co_de 9y ago
I don't know anything about the guy but his analysis of agile consultants and agile development agencies is spot on.
taherchhabra 9y ago
https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/advice.html https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/advice.html

lwkl 9y ago

That's probably exactly why you are told that you are socially awkward. Edit: I don't know the creator is there a story to this I don't know?

subway 9y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw

make3 9y ago

do people really pair program in real life? I've never actually seen it

rebeccaskinner 9y ago
Just to counter the other responses here. Yes, and it's even more dreadful than you might imagine if you've never done it. I recommend running fast and far away if you ever find yourself interviewing on a team where pairing is the default assumption.
dudul 9y ago
Yes.
- make3 9y ago
  at which company did you see it, and was it everyone
spinningarrow 9y ago
Yes, and I highly recommend it! source: used to think pair programming was odd until I gave it a proper go.
crdoconnor 9y ago
I find it useful for knowledge transfer. It's a good way of bringing new hires up to speed for the first week / two weeks. If you leave them to their own devices they have a tendency to get overwhelmed and fearful of continually bothering you to ask questions. It's sometimes a more efficient way of building stuff where, for a particular task, you need a whole bunch of knowledge or information that's currently living in somebody else's head. Also, if I'm having one of those days when I feel sluggish having another person there kickstarts me a bit... Defaulting to pair programming for every task - especially when the conditions above are not met is a super inefficient and overbearing way of developing though.
swagtricker 9y ago
Yes. Pair programming as the default for me since 2004. I've done it full time for 8 years at an XP shop (Scrum was added later) w/ 3 teams of 20+ total on 3 different continents. Worked for an Agile consultancy and trained people on Pair Programming and TDD for 4 years. I'm now working for an org that does both Pairing AND mob programming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_programming). It takes time, patience, and humility to learn how to do well. I find teams that pair simply build better software that has less bugs. There's literally a book on it to consider (https://www.amazon.com/Pair-Programming-Illuminated-Laurie-Williams/dp/0201745763/ https://www.amazon.com/Pair-Programming-Illuminated-Laurie-W...).

DoubleGlazing 9y ago

Oh yes, this rings true with me. I once worked at a company where the powers that be decided to go all Scrum. They hired a PM to convert all project, inc ongoing ones, to Scrum. It turned an enjoyable job in to a miserable one.