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Likely because he leads with “Muslim ban,” which sounds ignorant. Most people who agree with the ban realize it is a temporary ban on countries requested by DHS

Likely because he leads with “Muslim ban,” which sounds ignorant. Most people who agree with the ban realize it is a temporary ban on countries requested by DHS because there currently is no valid process for doing background checks on people from those countries. So yeah I can see why he fails to change minds.

learc83 9y ago
Regardless of what Trump actually implemented. During the campaign he called for a Muslim ban. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on." >We live in an age where "Muslim ban" sounds like appropriate policy to about half the population. The OP is saying that close to half the voters voted for Trump, so it's likely they agree that a Muslim ban is appropriate.
- crankylinuxuser 9y ago
  Well, it makes a great deal of sense in using "Muslim Ban". You 'otherize' them, you set them up against "You", and then you discriminate against them because they hate and want violence against you. It's also hard to go against this, as we've been at war with the Middle East since Desert Storm - only a ceasefire was called. And then later add on extremist moslems during September 11 attacks, and yeah.. It's a perfect firestorm of justifiable hatred of a religion by a great many people.
  - EliRivers 9y ago
    Sets a very useful precedent too, opening the door for bringing back Roman Catholic bans.
    - crankylinuxuser 9y ago
      True that, but they're still Christians as far as R's are concerned. Yeah, they do have some weird radical views like the Pope - but those can be fixed. The people in the middle east worship a "psychotic man with a hairy mole" (aka: Mohamed). I learned that on WIBC, 1070KHz after a multitude of interviews that Mike Pence hosted back in the mid 90's with "religion intellectuals". I was in my mid teens during that.. should have recorded him talking about all this, but I'm sure the radio studio has recordings as well. And back to the main issue, "Otherization" allows targeting anyone they don't want. And this seems to be drifting hard to neo-nazism. I know the people on Daily Stormer and similar groups are rather happy.
      - mrguyorama 9y ago
        Many evangelicals in the south DO NOT believe that Catholics are Christians

learc83 9y ago

Regardless of what Trump actually implemented. During the campaign he called for a Muslim ban. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on." >We live in an age where "Muslim ban" sounds like appropriate policy to about half the population. The OP is saying that close to half the voters voted for Trump, so it's likely they agree that a Muslim ban is appropriate.

crankylinuxuser 9y ago
Well, it makes a great deal of sense in using "Muslim Ban". You 'otherize' them, you set them up against "You", and then you discriminate against them because they hate and want violence against you. It's also hard to go against this, as we've been at war with the Middle East since Desert Storm - only a ceasefire was called. And then later add on extremist moslems during September 11 attacks, and yeah.. It's a perfect firestorm of justifiable hatred of a religion by a great many people.
- EliRivers 9y ago
  Sets a very useful precedent too, opening the door for bringing back Roman Catholic bans.
  - crankylinuxuser 9y ago
    True that, but they're still Christians as far as R's are concerned. Yeah, they do have some weird radical views like the Pope - but those can be fixed. The people in the middle east worship a "psychotic man with a hairy mole" (aka: Mohamed). I learned that on WIBC, 1070KHz after a multitude of interviews that Mike Pence hosted back in the mid 90's with "religion intellectuals". I was in my mid teens during that.. should have recorded him talking about all this, but I'm sure the radio studio has recordings as well. And back to the main issue, "Otherization" allows targeting anyone they don't want. And this seems to be drifting hard to neo-nazism. I know the people on Daily Stormer and similar groups are rather happy.
    - mrguyorama 9y ago
      Many evangelicals in the south DO NOT believe that Catholics are Christians