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It's cheap of you to try to conflate the issue of torturing prisoners with the issue of restrictions on immigration. It is not inconsistent to support immigrati

It's cheap of you to try to conflate the issue of torturing prisoners with the issue of restrictions on immigration. It is not inconsistent to support immigration restrictions on countries with Muslim extremists while simultaneously being against the torture of prisoners. You're tapping into identity politics.

IIAOPSW 9y ago
Do you really need an exhaustive list of people not giving a shit about civil liberties, human rights and American values as long as its "terrorism and pedophiles"? "Muslim ban" is just the latest and least subtle. Let's work backwards: Trump advocated targeting civilians in a war zone as a campaign promise. It was met with thunderous applause. https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-kill-innocent-family-isis-gop-debate-152612/ https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-kill-innocent-famil... How do you like your second amendment? How do you like due process of law? How about fuck both those things cause we're going to put people on Kafkaesque lists without any day in court and bar them from gun ownership without explanation. Surely such a measure would be massively unpopular with Republicans... http://time.com/4370009/donald-trump-gun-control-watch-list-nra/ http://time.com/4370009/donald-trump-gun-control-watch-list-... In fairness on that last one it didn't matter who you voted for. Hillary literally said the same thing. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/14/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-no-fly-list/85892542/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/... Its not like the US would actively hack US citizens on US soil in order to suppress a peaceful protest. Oh shit. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/26/standing_rock_protester_surveillance/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/26/standing_rock_prote... But you know, fuck them hippie protestors and occupy types. Whole lot should go get jobs amirite? Do I need to continue? Because I can. I've barely even touched upon the Obama era. And obviously the Patriot act and Guantanamo before that. Let me be clear here. I don't hate America. But when transgressions like this are applauded it becomes clear that a huge fraction of our populace just doesn't stand for our values. Our country is only as good as the people in it.
frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
>with the issue of restrictions on immigration. It's cheap of you to throw a muslim ban into the immigration bucket and not into the religious freedom bucket.

IIAOPSW 9y ago

Do you really need an exhaustive list of people not giving a shit about civil liberties, human rights and American values as long as its "terrorism and pedophiles"? "Muslim ban" is just the latest and least subtle. Let's work backwards: Trump advocated targeting civilians in a war zone as a campaign promise. It was met with thunderous applause. https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-kill-innocent-family-isis-gop-debate-152612/ https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-kill-innocent-famil... How do you like your second amendment? How do you like due process of law? How about fuck both those things cause we're going to put people on Kafkaesque lists without any day in court and bar them from gun ownership without explanation. Surely such a measure would be massively unpopular with Republicans... http://time.com/4370009/donald-trump-gun-control-watch-list-nra/ http://time.com/4370009/donald-trump-gun-control-watch-list-... In fairness on that last one it didn't matter who you voted for. Hillary literally said the same thing. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/14/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-no-fly-list/85892542/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/... Its not like the US would actively hack US citizens on US soil in order to suppress a peaceful protest. Oh shit. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/26/standing_rock_protester_surveillance/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/26/standing_rock_prote... But you know, fuck them hippie protestors and occupy types. Whole lot should go get jobs amirite? Do I need to continue? Because I can. I've barely even touched upon the Obama era. And obviously the Patriot act and Guantanamo before that. Let me be clear here. I don't hate America. But when transgressions like this are applauded it becomes clear that a huge fraction of our populace just doesn't stand for our values. Our country is only as good as the people in it.

frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago

>with the issue of restrictions on immigration. It's cheap of you to throw a muslim ban into the immigration bucket and not into the religious freedom bucket.