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Personally wish people would stop tinkering with the UI - polish but do not tinker/change needlessly. Case in point being that Linux likely remains fringe as a

Personally wish people would stop tinkering with the UI - polish but do not tinker/change needlessly. Case in point being that Linux likely remains fringe as a desktop platform simply because of it's continual tendency to morph on the UI side of things. Then again, Win10 is going down the same route so maybe it will all even out (...).

aetherspawn 9y ago
You mix UI and UX polish, and the UX on OpenOffice is honestly not very good ... I only had to use it the other day and struggled with finding half a dozen things that are just obvious with Word.
- jmiserez 9y ago
  * obvious to Word users For complete novices, yes the UI is not very intuitive. But Word isn’t much better either. I recently had to start using Word again at work and even though the ribbons seem intuitive and user-friendly, actually finding the feature I needed has not always been easy. I’ve had to Google quite a bit (the help is excellent though). At least in LibreOffice everything is always in the menus and does not suddenly disappear if your window is not wide enough.
  - oblio 9y ago
    Office now has a command search box.
- dingdingdang 9y ago
  I can recommend this read: https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/the-difference-between-ux-and-ui-design-a-laymans-guide/ https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/the-difference-b... UX doesn't enter into my criticism here.
JetSpiegel 9y ago
What does Linux (the kernel) have to do with UI? Unless you are creating kernel extensions, you don't directly interact with the Kernel? You mean Gnome 3? There are other desktops.
- adrianN 9y ago
  "There are other desktops" is a symptom of endless tinkering with the UI.
  - dingdingdang 9y ago
    Exactly this yes.
  - JetSpiegel 9y ago
    Or a recognition that one-size-fits-all doesn't work. Different desktops have different goals.
    - adrianN 9y ago
      I completely agree. I like having choice too. But for mass adoption you need a polished solution that works out of the box, not a bunch of Lego. The answers to users complaining shouldn't be "have you tried alternative software X?"
      - JetSpiegel 9y ago
        I think Gnome being the next default for Ubuntu will solve that problem, but mass adoption requires more than that.

aetherspawn 9y ago

You mix UI and UX polish, and the UX on OpenOffice is honestly not very good ... I only had to use it the other day and struggled with finding half a dozen things that are just obvious with Word.

jmiserez 9y ago
* obvious to Word users For complete novices, yes the UI is not very intuitive. But Word isn’t much better either. I recently had to start using Word again at work and even though the ribbons seem intuitive and user-friendly, actually finding the feature I needed has not always been easy. I’ve had to Google quite a bit (the help is excellent though). At least in LibreOffice everything is always in the menus and does not suddenly disappear if your window is not wide enough.
- oblio 9y ago
  Office now has a command search box.
dingdingdang 9y ago
I can recommend this read: https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/the-difference-between-ux-and-ui-design-a-laymans-guide/ https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/the-difference-b... UX doesn't enter into my criticism here.

JetSpiegel 9y ago

What does Linux (the kernel) have to do with UI? Unless you are creating kernel extensions, you don't directly interact with the Kernel? You mean Gnome 3? There are other desktops.

adrianN 9y ago
"There are other desktops" is a symptom of endless tinkering with the UI.
- dingdingdang 9y ago
  Exactly this yes.
- JetSpiegel 9y ago
  Or a recognition that one-size-fits-all doesn't work. Different desktops have different goals.
  - adrianN 9y ago
    I completely agree. I like having choice too. But for mass adoption you need a polished solution that works out of the box, not a bunch of Lego. The answers to users complaining shouldn't be "have you tried alternative software X?"
    - JetSpiegel 9y ago
      I think Gnome being the next default for Ubuntu will solve that problem, but mass adoption requires more than that.