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Hey hacker news - I'm one of the founders of Clever & have been working on Goals for the past year. I'd love to answer any questions you might have about the pr

Hey hacker news - I'm one of the founders of Clever & have been working on Goals for the past year. I'd love to answer any questions you might have about the product!

moh_maya 9y ago
Hello! Really exciting stuff. I've worked at the school and college level (now working on blue collar skill development / training). Am I correct in understanding that as of now, the teachers have to set the goals individually for each student? Would the next step be analytics so that the platform can predict / recommend specific goals for students based on profiles that they or the educators can select? Perhaps an "in the weeds" technical question, but are you using the tincan / xAPI for tracking and integrating such data? Or some other custom development? Thank you! :)
- 2arrs2ells 9y ago
  For launch, we built our own API. It's very simple. Post a JSON list of students with two attributes - the cumulative time they've spent on the program, and the cumulative "progress" they've made ("progress" metrics vary from application to application - things like "books read" or "lessons passed"). Full docs are here: https://dev.clever.com/docs/goals-api https://dev.clever.com/docs/goals-api The reasons we didn't adopt tincan/xAPI (or the very similar IMS Caliper standard) already are: 1. Limited K-12 adoption 2. Focus of existing standards on event transmission from "dumb" data senders (e.g. stateless content) to "smart" data hubs (e.g. LMSs that are the only source of analytics data). Our use case is different - as all of our data senders keep track of their own analytics, and it's critical for Goals to stay consistent with these systems. But now that we've launched & have a bit more time, I'd love to support an open standard. I'm optimistic that we can figure out a solution to #2, and then I'd love to have Clever drive K-12 adoption. In fact, I had a great call with IMS Global about this today :-)
  - moh_maya 9y ago
    Thank you! :)

Hey hacker news - I'm one of the founders of Clever & have been working on Goals for the past year. I'd love to answer any questions you might have about the product!

moh_maya 9y ago

Hello! Really exciting stuff. I've worked at the school and college level (now working on blue collar skill development / training). Am I correct in understanding that as of now, the teachers have to set the goals individually for each student? Would the next step be analytics so that the platform can predict / recommend specific goals for students based on profiles that they or the educators can select? Perhaps an "in the weeds" technical question, but are you using the tincan / xAPI for tracking and integrating such data? Or some other custom development? Thank you! :)

2arrs2ells 9y ago
For launch, we built our own API. It's very simple. Post a JSON list of students with two attributes - the cumulative time they've spent on the program, and the cumulative "progress" they've made ("progress" metrics vary from application to application - things like "books read" or "lessons passed"). Full docs are here: https://dev.clever.com/docs/goals-api https://dev.clever.com/docs/goals-api The reasons we didn't adopt tincan/xAPI (or the very similar IMS Caliper standard) already are: 1. Limited K-12 adoption 2. Focus of existing standards on event transmission from "dumb" data senders (e.g. stateless content) to "smart" data hubs (e.g. LMSs that are the only source of analytics data). Our use case is different - as all of our data senders keep track of their own analytics, and it's critical for Goals to stay consistent with these systems. But now that we've launched & have a bit more time, I'd love to support an open standard. I'm optimistic that we can figure out a solution to #2, and then I'd love to have Clever drive K-12 adoption. In fact, I had a great call with IMS Global about this today :-)
- moh_maya 9y ago
  Thank you! :)