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I don't know. Why do we push files to production on a Friday evening? Why do we snipe hot-fixes into production via FTP? Because we are all crazy & lazy bums, I

I don't know. Why do we push files to production on a Friday evening? Why do we snipe hot-fixes into production via FTP? Because we are all crazy & lazy bums, I would guess.

wolfgke 9y ago
> I don't know. Why do we push files to production on a Friday evening? Because we worked for the whole week on it and now want that other people can see it on their weekend. Since we are so proud of our work and trust in its quality, we are willing to do an extra shift on the weekend, should problems occur.
- emacsgifs 9y ago
  Are you missing a /s?
  - felipemnoa 9y ago
    Since this sounds very familiar I would venture that he's being serious.
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  I feel this is an extremely selfish attitude, as generally it's not just the one who pushed into production who has to do extra work on the weekend, and usually they are not willing to do extra work because someone's ego couldn't wait 2 more days.
- Agentlien 9y ago
  While I understand and have also myself been guilty of this, I have come to believe that this attitude is selfish and irresponsible. The experience which gave me perspective was on a project at my previous job. I worked together with another highly passionate engineer and we made amazing progress over the course of a very short time. The day before the demonstration of our results to our bosses, meant to serve as evaluation and retrospective for this project, we had reached all goals and the simulation was really robust and stable. However, when I came to work on the day itself, I found my colleague sitting at his desk, looking very tired. He'd been working through the night to get all the extra bells and whistles implemented. The demonstration was a disaster. Nothing worked, everything crashed. A lot of people were upset.
glockenspielen 9y ago
Good use of metaphor.
- Terr_ 9y ago
  > metaphor Simile. Or analogy, perhaps. ... Is that kind of pedantic correction a sign of unlikable intelligence? :P
tehlike 9y ago
if you have the monitoring in place, and you have done proper canarying, friday evenings are not terrible
- scruple 9y ago
  Of course. You're more than welcome to risk your own weekend over trivialities. The rest of us only ask that you please keep us out of your plans.
  - tehlike 9y ago
    You never were. And there was a reason for that. Maybe you are not the person to put his 150% on the line when needed. It is ok. You do not have to be. Then you get paid accordingly. You also didnt ask what could prompt before weekend pushes. It could be money, reputation or or compliance. Certain projects are out of your control and you have to implement in weeks notice, or have a deadline imposed by laws. Some are losing revenue so each day you do not release you are bleeding money. So please, by all means, take your weekend off, while i plan for worst cases and make it so that friday releases are "trivial and safe" to deploy. I do not have to use it, but if i do, i do not need you around, it will be mostly automated anyway.
    - Raphmedia 9y ago
      The problem isn't the day of the week but the fact that it is the day before time off. If you work weekends then by all means push on Friday evening. However, don't push anything the before your next vacations.
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- majormajor 9y ago
  and if you have someone else on call, Friday evenings are perfectly fine :p
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2muchcoffeeman 9y ago
Because higher ups forced us to?

I don't know. Why do we push files to production on a Friday evening? Why do we snipe hot-fixes into production via FTP? Because we are all crazy & lazy bums, I would guess.

wolfgke 9y ago

> I don't know. Why do we push files to production on a Friday evening? Because we worked for the whole week on it and now want that other people can see it on their weekend. Since we are so proud of our work and trust in its quality, we are willing to do an extra shift on the weekend, should problems occur.

emacsgifs 9y ago
Are you missing a /s?
- felipemnoa 9y ago
  Since this sounds very familiar I would venture that he's being serious.
s73ver_ 9y ago
I feel this is an extremely selfish attitude, as generally it's not just the one who pushed into production who has to do extra work on the weekend, and usually they are not willing to do extra work because someone's ego couldn't wait 2 more days.
Agentlien 9y ago
While I understand and have also myself been guilty of this, I have come to believe that this attitude is selfish and irresponsible. The experience which gave me perspective was on a project at my previous job. I worked together with another highly passionate engineer and we made amazing progress over the course of a very short time. The day before the demonstration of our results to our bosses, meant to serve as evaluation and retrospective for this project, we had reached all goals and the simulation was really robust and stable. However, when I came to work on the day itself, I found my colleague sitting at his desk, looking very tired. He'd been working through the night to get all the extra bells and whistles implemented. The demonstration was a disaster. Nothing worked, everything crashed. A lot of people were upset.

glockenspielen 9y ago

Good use of metaphor.

Terr_ 9y ago
> metaphor Simile. Or analogy, perhaps. ... Is that kind of pedantic correction a sign of unlikable intelligence? :P

tehlike 9y ago

if you have the monitoring in place, and you have done proper canarying, friday evenings are not terrible

scruple 9y ago
Of course. You're more than welcome to risk your own weekend over trivialities. The rest of us only ask that you please keep us out of your plans.
- tehlike 9y ago
  You never were. And there was a reason for that. Maybe you are not the person to put his 150% on the line when needed. It is ok. You do not have to be. Then you get paid accordingly. You also didnt ask what could prompt before weekend pushes. It could be money, reputation or or compliance. Certain projects are out of your control and you have to implement in weeks notice, or have a deadline imposed by laws. Some are losing revenue so each day you do not release you are bleeding money. So please, by all means, take your weekend off, while i plan for worst cases and make it so that friday releases are "trivial and safe" to deploy. I do not have to use it, but if i do, i do not need you around, it will be mostly automated anyway.
  - Raphmedia 9y ago
    The problem isn't the day of the week but the fact that it is the day before time off. If you work weekends then by all means push on Friday evening. However, don't push anything the before your next vacations.
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majormajor 9y ago
and if you have someone else on call, Friday evenings are perfectly fine :p
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2muchcoffeeman 9y ago

Because higher ups forced us to?