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For example, in San Francisco the bus costs $2.50 to $2.75 depending on how you pay. If two people want to go somewhere, thats at least $5. Instead I can get d

For example, in San Francisco the bus costs $2.50 to $2.75 depending on how you pay. If two people want to go somewhere, thats at least $5. Instead I can get door to door service with Lyft for between $3.90 and $4.10 for the first person and an additional $0.90 for the second person. This means I typically come out slightly ahead with Lyft with two people and its way more convenient. Its great... for now. Who knows how long it will last at these prices?

IWeldMelons 9y ago
3.90? Are you going like half a mile or what? Most of the city people usually have bus passes, because jobs are often far away.
- mrgordon 9y ago
  Usually 1-2 miles. We don't need to do it every day so it isn't worth having a bus pass. If we wanted to do it daily though, there are ridesharing passes too. Some people pay like $20-25 a month for a pack of Uber passes that give a certain number of rides. This is just talking about the daily commute. Say I want to go to the airport. Its $12-14 in a Lyft usually and about the same for two people on BART. Even if I had a bus pass for work, I'd still need to pay for either BART or Lyft and Lyft saves at least 45 minutes (including 15 minutes of walking to get to a station) for an approximately equal price so it ends up being a no brainer until prices go up. Obviously if you go large distances then a commuter rail pass or maybe a bus pass would make more sense.
  - geezerjay 9y ago
    > Usually 1-2 miles. We don't need to do it every day You hardly count as mass transit traffic if your only use is sporadic and it covers close to a walking distance.
    - mrgordon 9y ago
      False. Everyone who decides to use a bus/train instead of a Lyft counts as a public transit user. In aggregate, our decisions determine how many riders use public transit. It serves no purpose to ignore anyone who rides less than 30-40 times a month (which is around what you need to break even on a pass)
geezerjay 9y ago
> For example, in San Francisco the bus costs $2.50 to $2.75 depending on how you pay. According to Google, sfmta fares are $2.25 per adult. Those fares however are for single trips for sporadic users. Those are don't represent mass transit users. People who use mass transit with some relevant frequency use it with enough to justify paying for a monthly pass, which sfmta's goes for between $68 and $80 a month.
- mrgordon 9y ago
  Well that will teach you not to trust Google, won’t it? The cost is $2.5 to $2.75 as I indicated: https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/fares https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/fares Please don’t start a conversation with a rude tone and then cite incorrect info to “correct” the facts that I provided. As I’ve already mentioned, Lyft and Uber have frequent rider passes too so it isn’t fair to compare a single Lyft ride to the cost of a monthly bus pas per ride. Monthly passes have also gone up $12-14 compared to what you cited. The bus is a great deal if you pay prices from 5 years ago ;)

IWeldMelons 9y ago

3.90? Are you going like half a mile or what? Most of the city people usually have bus passes, because jobs are often far away.

mrgordon 9y ago
Usually 1-2 miles. We don't need to do it every day so it isn't worth having a bus pass. If we wanted to do it daily though, there are ridesharing passes too. Some people pay like $20-25 a month for a pack of Uber passes that give a certain number of rides. This is just talking about the daily commute. Say I want to go to the airport. Its $12-14 in a Lyft usually and about the same for two people on BART. Even if I had a bus pass for work, I'd still need to pay for either BART or Lyft and Lyft saves at least 45 minutes (including 15 minutes of walking to get to a station) for an approximately equal price so it ends up being a no brainer until prices go up. Obviously if you go large distances then a commuter rail pass or maybe a bus pass would make more sense.
- geezerjay 9y ago
  > Usually 1-2 miles. We don't need to do it every day You hardly count as mass transit traffic if your only use is sporadic and it covers close to a walking distance.
  - mrgordon 9y ago
    False. Everyone who decides to use a bus/train instead of a Lyft counts as a public transit user. In aggregate, our decisions determine how many riders use public transit. It serves no purpose to ignore anyone who rides less than 30-40 times a month (which is around what you need to break even on a pass)

geezerjay 9y ago

> For example, in San Francisco the bus costs $2.50 to $2.75 depending on how you pay. According to Google, sfmta fares are $2.25 per adult. Those fares however are for single trips for sporadic users. Those are don't represent mass transit users. People who use mass transit with some relevant frequency use it with enough to justify paying for a monthly pass, which sfmta's goes for between $68 and $80 a month.

mrgordon 9y ago
Well that will teach you not to trust Google, won’t it? The cost is $2.5 to $2.75 as I indicated: https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/fares https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/fares Please don’t start a conversation with a rude tone and then cite incorrect info to “correct” the facts that I provided. As I’ve already mentioned, Lyft and Uber have frequent rider passes too so it isn’t fair to compare a single Lyft ride to the cost of a monthly bus pas per ride. Monthly passes have also gone up $12-14 compared to what you cited. The bus is a great deal if you pay prices from 5 years ago ;)