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Spamhaus is the most rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers out there (or at least they act like teenagers). I've had various SMTP servers (for various

by furyg3 16y ago

Spamhaus is the most rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers out there (or at least they act like teenagers). I've had various SMTP servers (for various companies) blocked by them, usually for very questionable reasons. You used to have to argue with them on their forum (and take a beating from all of the kids on that site) before they'd remove you. The result is that SMTP admins get it from both sides: Spammers make your life hard, rabid blackhole lists combatting spammers make your life even harder.

auxbuss 16y ago
Google are no better. I can't send email to gmail addresses -- well sometimes I can and sometimes I can't -- because Google (sometimes) says of my server: Our system has detected an unusual rate of 550-5.7.1 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our 550-5.7.1 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been blocked. This is complete bullshit. We have SPFs in DNS. We don't relay, and have had this independently tested. We send tiny amounts (3 or 4 a week) of mainly personal email to gmail addresses. Who do I contact to sort this? Who knows? Google has no point of contact. So I'm happy for Google to have a taste of their own medicine. And my opinion of them is a rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers.
- jlees 16y ago
  Did you contact using the delivery form at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=msgdelivery http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=m... and still get no response?
- houseabsolute 16y ago
  I doubt that Google is tasting this at all. Probably only the unlucky companies who use Spamhaus and now have the unenviable task of going through and making sure they missed no emails from customers or partners.
- growt 16y ago
  maybe you're on the same subnet as someone who actually spams them.
JoachimSchipper 16y ago
> Spamhaus is the most rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers out there I see you've never met SORBS. Or even NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email). Blacklists are a pretty powerful tool to get ISPs and the like to do something about their spam. And Spamhaus is usually right. And yes, I've been on SORBS (due to some other account in the same /24 spamming at some point in the past...)

by furyg3 16y ago

auxbuss 16y ago

Google are no better. I can't send email to gmail addresses -- well sometimes I can and sometimes I can't -- because Google (sometimes) says of my server: Our system has detected an unusual rate of 550-5.7.1 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our 550-5.7.1 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been blocked. This is complete bullshit. We have SPFs in DNS. We don't relay, and have had this independently tested. We send tiny amounts (3 or 4 a week) of mainly personal email to gmail addresses. Who do I contact to sort this? Who knows? Google has no point of contact. So I'm happy for Google to have a taste of their own medicine. And my opinion of them is a rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers.

jlees 16y ago
Did you contact using the delivery form at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=msgdelivery http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=m... and still get no response?
houseabsolute 16y ago
I doubt that Google is tasting this at all. Probably only the unlucky companies who use Spamhaus and now have the unenviable task of going through and making sure they missed no emails from customers or partners.
growt 16y ago
maybe you're on the same subnet as someone who actually spams them.

JoachimSchipper 16y ago

> Spamhaus is the most rabid group of extreme anti-spammer teenagers out there I see you've never met SORBS. Or even NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email). Blacklists are a pretty powerful tool to get ISPs and the like to do something about their spam. And Spamhaus is usually right. And yes, I've been on SORBS (due to some other account in the same /24 spamming at some point in the past...)