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First link on google on poor voters going Democratic: http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11/#the-racial-divide-between-

by wfo 9y ago

First link on google on poor voters going Democratic: http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11/#the-racial-divide-between-democratic-and-republican-voters-was-clear-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trum... Every income group over $50k voted Trump. If you scroll down you see that rural voters did indeed go for Trump, but they are much smaller proportion of the population than city folk or, the largest group, suburbanites (who went for Trump solidly as well). I don't have a source handy for the poor being largely non-voters but I've seen hundreds over the years, it's well-established fact. >Given that most people seem to attribute the swing state losses to the 'we need jobs' votes coming from the manufacturing and steel industries Most people might make this attribution but it is not correct.

lloyd-christmas 9y ago
That article doesn't support your assertion. Those are overall exit polls, not polls of swing states. The swings states are the only meaningful measure of comparison as to "why he won". The middle class are doing very well in red states like Iowa and Nebraska, but they are just as irrelevant as a billionaire in manhattan or a welfare recipient in the bronx.
- prklmn 9y ago
  In Ohio, the state that has voted for every president to win since 1964, trump won across every level of education and every level of income except the MOST poor according to exit polls. http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/ohio/president http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/ohio/pres...
- wfo 9y ago
  Okay, if you will only accept extremely specific tailored data on tiny fractions of the population you are perfectly capable of finding it yourself. I'll be happy to review it with you when you do. The other responder to you has already done this for you, in fact, and the data there backs up my claims. Plus, my main claim is that Trump voters are not the poor, they are middle-class suburbanites. My source absolutely backs that claim up. Also, I'm not sure you understand the electoral landscape very well. Iowa is one of the more purple states, it was VERY blue for Obama and almost exactly dead even on Bush both times. The makeup of Iowa is actually very similar to nearby Wisconsin and Michigan, which were the surprise red states that took the election for Trump.

by wfo 9y ago

lloyd-christmas 9y ago

That article doesn't support your assertion. Those are overall exit polls, not polls of swing states. The swings states are the only meaningful measure of comparison as to "why he won". The middle class are doing very well in red states like Iowa and Nebraska, but they are just as irrelevant as a billionaire in manhattan or a welfare recipient in the bronx.

prklmn 9y ago
In Ohio, the state that has voted for every president to win since 1964, trump won across every level of education and every level of income except the MOST poor according to exit polls. http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/ohio/president http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/ohio/pres...
wfo 9y ago
Okay, if you will only accept extremely specific tailored data on tiny fractions of the population you are perfectly capable of finding it yourself. I'll be happy to review it with you when you do. The other responder to you has already done this for you, in fact, and the data there backs up my claims. Plus, my main claim is that Trump voters are not the poor, they are middle-class suburbanites. My source absolutely backs that claim up. Also, I'm not sure you understand the electoral landscape very well. Iowa is one of the more purple states, it was VERY blue for Obama and almost exactly dead even on Bush both times. The makeup of Iowa is actually very similar to nearby Wisconsin and Michigan, which were the surprise red states that took the election for Trump.