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OP is freaked that the data that was shared with Google is used to help Google get a bigger dataset... Get a grip. Edit: Downvotes now rolling in. I'd love to

by Zhenya 9y ago

OP is freaked that the data that was shared with Google is used to help Google get a bigger dataset... Get a grip. Edit: Downvotes now rolling in. I'd love to know why. Is this a bug? Is Google doing something wrong? Or did OP hand over the data and not bother to go through the settings to turn off things they didn't like .

excalibur 9y ago
> Or did OP hand over the data and not bother to go through the settings to turn off things they didn't like OP is making the case that they shouldn't have to. That a personal device they purchased outright should be secure by default.
- Zhenya 9y ago
  It's secure. The data is only going to Google. OP agreed to that when he logged into the device with their Google account not when they bought the device. Also: security != privacy
  - ucaetano 9y ago
    Exactly, unsurprisingly, people are surprised that when they decided to share their location with Google, Google actually gets their location. Shocking.
  - fenwick67 9y ago
    Yeah I think the word they meant to use was "private". Having a user check a box to agree to this along with a million other things is definitely legal (which I guess is your point?), but it's less than ideal for users. Consumers buy a phone with the anticipation of being able to watch Netflix and Hulu and send text messages (insert other use cases here), then pay $600 for it, then they are stopped with a "oh by the way if you want all of these apps you need to tell us where you are all the time". It's legally fine but that doesn't make it non-evil.
  - excalibur 9y ago
    People generally login to their Android device with their Google account out of a perceived necessity, in order to 1) access the Google Play store to get apps they're actually interested in, and 2) get their gmail to sync to their phone. There is a certain level of sending-data-to-google that is required to facilitate these functions. Android by default sends considerably more.
stordoff 9y ago
"data that was shared with Google" seems like a stretch - it's closer to "data that Google took" IMO (I doubt most people would assume the default is that Google knows what restaurants you are visiting). Then using that data to send you a request to, basically, do work for Google is just annoying.

by Zhenya 9y ago

excalibur 9y ago

> Or did OP hand over the data and not bother to go through the settings to turn off things they didn't like OP is making the case that they shouldn't have to. That a personal device they purchased outright should be secure by default.

Zhenya 9y ago
It's secure. The data is only going to Google. OP agreed to that when he logged into the device with their Google account not when they bought the device. Also: security != privacy
- ucaetano 9y ago
  Exactly, unsurprisingly, people are surprised that when they decided to share their location with Google, Google actually gets their location. Shocking.
- fenwick67 9y ago
  Yeah I think the word they meant to use was "private". Having a user check a box to agree to this along with a million other things is definitely legal (which I guess is your point?), but it's less than ideal for users. Consumers buy a phone with the anticipation of being able to watch Netflix and Hulu and send text messages (insert other use cases here), then pay $600 for it, then they are stopped with a "oh by the way if you want all of these apps you need to tell us where you are all the time". It's legally fine but that doesn't make it non-evil.
- excalibur 9y ago
  People generally login to their Android device with their Google account out of a perceived necessity, in order to 1) access the Google Play store to get apps they're actually interested in, and 2) get their gmail to sync to their phone. There is a certain level of sending-data-to-google that is required to facilitate these functions. Android by default sends considerably more.

stordoff 9y ago

"data that was shared with Google" seems like a stretch - it's closer to "data that Google took" IMO (I doubt most people would assume the default is that Google knows what restaurants you are visiting). Then using that data to send you a request to, basically, do work for Google is just annoying.