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the JS DDOS portal, while amicable in intention, exists in a privileged place among hosting service providers. Dreamhost found out all to well how easy it was

the JS DDOS portal, while amicable in intention, exists in a privileged place among hosting service providers. Dreamhost found out all to well how easy it was to be targeted in dragnet federal litigation designed to violate the privacy of internet users. Cloudflares JS is innocuous only in that it --to public knowledge-- is not being used to unmask anonymous proxy users or silently track specific site visitors in a dragnet fashion. Im not too encumbered by JS encapsulation at the moment, but a warrant canary might put my mind at ease assuming the internet still does those https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

avidal 9y ago
Cloudflare has a transparency report[0], updated twice a year. In the transparency report there's a warrant canary: Some things we have never done Cloudflare has never turned over our SSL keys or our customers' SSL keys to anyone. Cloudflare has never installed any law enforcement software or equipment anywhere on our network. Cloudflare has never terminated a customer or taken down content due to political pressure. Cloudflare has never provided any law enforcement organization a feed of our customers' content transiting our network. [0] https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/
- Justin_K 9y ago
  Where do you draw the line between political pressure and the management's political beliefs?
  - koolba 9y ago
    That latest report says it covers the first half of 2017 so we'll have to wait to see whether they consider the actions from the second half of the year to change the fourth item on that list.
    - crunchatized 9y ago
      Is it concerning yet that they haven't put up their semi annual warrant canary, actually? The last two times, they had it updated by January 14th [0] and July 8th.[1] [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20170114100401/https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170114100401/https://www.cloud... [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20170708164222/https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170708164222/https://www.cloud...
  - j_s 9y ago
    >Where do you draw the line between political pressure and the management's political beliefs? So far, Cloudflare's most notorious content on the other side of the line has been Daily Stormer back in August of 2017. >The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15029852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15029852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034304

avidal 9y ago

Cloudflare has a transparency report[0], updated twice a year. In the transparency report there's a warrant canary: Some things we have never done Cloudflare has never turned over our SSL keys or our customers' SSL keys to anyone. Cloudflare has never installed any law enforcement software or equipment anywhere on our network. Cloudflare has never terminated a customer or taken down content due to political pressure. Cloudflare has never provided any law enforcement organization a feed of our customers' content transiting our network. [0] https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/

Justin_K 9y ago
Where do you draw the line between political pressure and the management's political beliefs?
- koolba 9y ago
  That latest report says it covers the first half of 2017 so we'll have to wait to see whether they consider the actions from the second half of the year to change the fourth item on that list.
  - crunchatized 9y ago
    Is it concerning yet that they haven't put up their semi annual warrant canary, actually? The last two times, they had it updated by January 14th [0] and July 8th.[1] [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20170114100401/https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170114100401/https://www.cloud... [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20170708164222/https://www.cloudflare.com/transparency/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170708164222/https://www.cloud...
- j_s 9y ago
  >Where do you draw the line between political pressure and the management's political beliefs? So far, Cloudflare's most notorious content on the other side of the line has been Daily Stormer back in August of 2017. >The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15029852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15029852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15034304