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The smartest of them saw the writing on the wall and used their I'll gotten gains to go mostly legit, investing heavily in high money throughput businesses such

The smartest of them saw the writing on the wall and used their I'll gotten gains to go mostly legit, investing heavily in high money throughput businesses such as Hollywood, casinos, banking, the legal field, insurance, etc. Bonus: The mafia that even the mafia is afraid of that you've probably never heard of? The Jewish mafia.

sek 9y ago
This is antisemitic bullshit. While there has been a small jewish mafia in NY they where a „regular mafia“ like the italian mafia. Most of them were and are legit and the affinity just coming from jewish immigrants having a history in those fields living in europe. Not for money laundering what you implied. They are very well connected and help each other.
- arca_vorago 9y ago
  People who immediately accuse others of antisemitism at any mention of Israel or the Jewish religion are not interested in any kind of intellectually honest discussion.
  - saiya-jin 9y ago
    you know, unless you provide reliable sources to back up your strong claims (which might be considered antisemitic), then this is just another internet blah
  - sek 9y ago
    How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia", no sources just that they are "The Jewish Mafia". Are there Jewish mafiosi? Sure, like a lot of other nationalities and ethnic groups, but I doubt any mafiosi will see them as above them as the "puppet masters of international crime". You call this intellectually honest?
    - arca_vorago 9y ago
      >How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. A strawman attack. I was speaking of mafia in general in the first sentence. >They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia" Putting words in my mouth I never said, another strawman. There is a difference between saying they are the "mafia of the mafia" and saying they are a part of the mafia that even other mafia are afraid of. >"puppet masters of international crime" Far too simplistic a summarization of this much more nuanced and complex subject. >You call this intellectually honest? Yep, unlike your two comments.
- fractallyte 9y ago
  So as soon as anyone uses the 'J' word, they're automatically antisemitic?! (And therefore, must be downvoted...?) Misha Glenny - author of the posted article - is also the writer behind BBC's McMafia (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05pksm8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05pksm8), which portrays the world (literally!) of organized crime through the eyes of a Russian Jewish 'mafia' family. Compelling viewing, and provides a lot of context for the comments of the parent post.
Asooka 9y ago
What sources do you have on that supposed Jewish Mafia? It's not unthinkable that there would be one, after all we have many other ethnic-based mafias, but I've never heard of it.
- brazzy 9y ago
  It's fairly well documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crim... But it really was just another ethnic-based organized crime group, not substantially different from the others in any way, and most definitely not "The mafia that even the mafia is afraid of that you've probably never heard of?"
- arca_vorago 9y ago
  Someone already linked a wikipedia page, so here are a few relevant youtube links worth watching if you are really interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOEGUAf3QxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOEGUAf3QxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyamKWhWlY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyamKWhWlY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I3o-i5t8qY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I3o-i5t8qY

sek 9y ago

This is antisemitic bullshit. While there has been a small jewish mafia in NY they where a „regular mafia“ like the italian mafia. Most of them were and are legit and the affinity just coming from jewish immigrants having a history in those fields living in europe. Not for money laundering what you implied. They are very well connected and help each other.

arca_vorago 9y ago
People who immediately accuse others of antisemitism at any mention of Israel or the Jewish religion are not interested in any kind of intellectually honest discussion.
- saiya-jin 9y ago
  you know, unless you provide reliable sources to back up your strong claims (which might be considered antisemitic), then this is just another internet blah
- sek 9y ago
  How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia", no sources just that they are "The Jewish Mafia". Are there Jewish mafiosi? Sure, like a lot of other nationalities and ethnic groups, but I doubt any mafiosi will see them as above them as the "puppet masters of international crime". You call this intellectually honest?
  - arca_vorago 9y ago
    >How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. A strawman attack. I was speaking of mafia in general in the first sentence. >They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia" Putting words in my mouth I never said, another strawman. There is a difference between saying they are the "mafia of the mafia" and saying they are a part of the mafia that even other mafia are afraid of. >"puppet masters of international crime" Far too simplistic a summarization of this much more nuanced and complex subject. >You call this intellectually honest? Yep, unlike your two comments.
fractallyte 9y ago
So as soon as anyone uses the 'J' word, they're automatically antisemitic?! (And therefore, must be downvoted...?) Misha Glenny - author of the posted article - is also the writer behind BBC's McMafia (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05pksm8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05pksm8), which portrays the world (literally!) of organized crime through the eyes of a Russian Jewish 'mafia' family. Compelling viewing, and provides a lot of context for the comments of the parent post.

Asooka 9y ago

What sources do you have on that supposed Jewish Mafia? It's not unthinkable that there would be one, after all we have many other ethnic-based mafias, but I've never heard of it.

brazzy 9y ago
It's fairly well documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crim... But it really was just another ethnic-based organized crime group, not substantially different from the others in any way, and most definitely not "The mafia that even the mafia is afraid of that you've probably never heard of?"
arca_vorago 9y ago
Someone already linked a wikipedia page, so here are a few relevant youtube links worth watching if you are really interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOEGUAf3QxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOEGUAf3QxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyamKWhWlY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyamKWhWlY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I3o-i5t8qY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I3o-i5t8qY