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The article doesn't really go into what mafias are actually doing to stay alive. What cyber crimes are the mafias in control of? Are any large "cyber gangs" no

by kmnc 9y ago

The article doesn't really go into what mafias are actually doing to stay alive. What cyber crimes are the mafias in control of? Are any large "cyber gangs" not connected to local mafias? I have always loved the fantasy of the mafia just from a job advancement and loyalty point of view. You start at the bottom, get rewarded for hard work and being intelligent and eventually get "made". Then you have power, unconditional respect, and life long guarantees of a job, security, and family. Getting "made" should be a real thing in the corporate world.

michaelbuckbee 9y ago
Would you consider tenure in academia to be an equivalent? Or maybe rank/advancement in the military?
- uncletaco 9y ago
  I would. Feudalism, corporate promotion, and academia all sounds like gangsterism by other names to me.
  - labster 9y ago
    I laughed, then I remembered stories about offers from the thesis committee that you can't refuse. Fortunately they can only kill your career.
toomanybeersies 9y ago
It's a two way street though, you can't leave. Imagine a job where you're guaranteed a job, but you're also never allowed to resign on fear of injury and/or death.
taneq 9y ago
I think "made" is when you're on a few company boards and in the old boys' club, and you can spend the rest of your life patting each other on the back and voting for pay raises for each other.
arca_vorago 9y ago
The smartest of them saw the writing on the wall and used their I'll gotten gains to go mostly legit, investing heavily in high money throughput businesses such as Hollywood, casinos, banking, the legal field, insurance, etc. Bonus: The mafia that even the mafia is afraid of that you've probably never heard of? The Jewish mafia.
- sek 9y ago
  This is antisemitic bullshit. While there has been a small jewish mafia in NY they where a „regular mafia“ like the italian mafia. Most of them were and are legit and the affinity just coming from jewish immigrants having a history in those fields living in europe. Not for money laundering what you implied. They are very well connected and help each other.
  - arca_vorago 9y ago
    People who immediately accuse others of antisemitism at any mention of Israel or the Jewish religion are not interested in any kind of intellectually honest discussion.
    - saiya-jin 9y ago
      you know, unless you provide reliable sources to back up your strong claims (which might be considered antisemitic), then this is just another internet blah
    - sek 9y ago
      How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia", no sources just that they are "The Jewish Mafia". Are there Jewish mafiosi? Sure, like a lot of other nationalities and ethnic groups, but I doubt any mafiosi will see them as above them as the "puppet masters of international crime". You call this intellectually honest?

by kmnc 9y ago

michaelbuckbee 9y ago

Would you consider tenure in academia to be an equivalent? Or maybe rank/advancement in the military?

uncletaco 9y ago
I would. Feudalism, corporate promotion, and academia all sounds like gangsterism by other names to me.
- labster 9y ago
  I laughed, then I remembered stories about offers from the thesis committee that you can't refuse. Fortunately they can only kill your career.

toomanybeersies 9y ago

It's a two way street though, you can't leave. Imagine a job where you're guaranteed a job, but you're also never allowed to resign on fear of injury and/or death.

taneq 9y ago

I think "made" is when you're on a few company boards and in the old boys' club, and you can spend the rest of your life patting each other on the back and voting for pay raises for each other.

arca_vorago 9y ago

The smartest of them saw the writing on the wall and used their I'll gotten gains to go mostly legit, investing heavily in high money throughput businesses such as Hollywood, casinos, banking, the legal field, insurance, etc. Bonus: The mafia that even the mafia is afraid of that you've probably never heard of? The Jewish mafia.

sek 9y ago
This is antisemitic bullshit. While there has been a small jewish mafia in NY they where a „regular mafia“ like the italian mafia. Most of them were and are legit and the affinity just coming from jewish immigrants having a history in those fields living in europe. Not for money laundering what you implied. They are very well connected and help each other.
- arca_vorago 9y ago
  People who immediately accuse others of antisemitism at any mention of Israel or the Jewish religion are not interested in any kind of intellectually honest discussion.
  - saiya-jin 9y ago
    you know, unless you provide reliable sources to back up your strong claims (which might be considered antisemitic), then this is just another internet blah
  - sek 9y ago
    How you were describing Jews in all those industries is a clear case of antisemitic canard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard They are apparently so powerful they are the "Mafia of the Mafia", no sources just that they are "The Jewish Mafia". Are there Jewish mafiosi? Sure, like a lot of other nationalities and ethnic groups, but I doubt any mafiosi will see them as above them as the "puppet masters of international crime". You call this intellectually honest?