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And, I'm going to guess, not having children.

by Naritai 9y ago

matte_black 9y ago
Children can be enrolled in the program as well. Also I do not check in any luggage.
- Jesus_Jones 9y ago
  But you are giving up their fingerprints to the government. That's one thing that really bugs me about those programs. I want to remind everyone of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield. They arrested him because some of his fingerprints slightly matched. The FBI claimed they exactly matched. Quoting from the wikipedia article "His prints were ... taken ... when he joined the military. He became the prime suspect because of his conversion to Islam and because he had represented one of the Portland Seven... The FBI described the fingerprint match as "100% verified". According to the court documents in judge Ann Aiken's decision, this information was largely "fabricated and concocted by the FBI and DOJ". This is why I'm reluctant to give the govt. my fingerprints, but my friends think I'm overreacting.
  - selectodude 9y ago
    In no way is that remotely acceptable, but the dude got $2 million. The government making a habit of that behavior would get expensive quickly.
    - ComputerGuru 9y ago
      Are you kidding, that’s your defense? $2M in taxpayer money is nothing to them. Just like the expense of incarceration didn’t bring down jail terms for minor offenses. Or settlements for police brutality haven’t affected that one iota either.
      - selectodude 9y ago
        If they did that to ten thousand US citizens (.0031 percent chance of being messed with), a 2 million dollar settlement would cost them $20bn. Affordable, but certainly not a rounding error line item.
        dx034 9y ago
        The officers working on the case do not decide about the govt budget. I'm not even sure if the government tracks expenses from those cases and would know how to react if the costs escalate.
el_benhameen 9y ago
Have child, just got Pre Check. Kids under 12 don't need their own known traveler number. Pack light, gate check the car seat, and you're pretty close to the parent post's timing. Even if you have to check luggage, Southwest's check-in lines are short more often than not.
kelnos 9y ago
I would assume that adding children to the mix also increases your time to prepare and get to and from some future HSR train station as well, so it's probably a wash.
baddox 9y ago
I would assume that the vast majority of train passengers between LA and SF would also not be children.

And, I'm going to guess, not having children.

matte_black 9y ago

Children can be enrolled in the program as well. Also I do not check in any luggage.

Jesus_Jones 9y ago
But you are giving up their fingerprints to the government. That's one thing that really bugs me about those programs. I want to remind everyone of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield. They arrested him because some of his fingerprints slightly matched. The FBI claimed they exactly matched. Quoting from the wikipedia article "His prints were ... taken ... when he joined the military. He became the prime suspect because of his conversion to Islam and because he had represented one of the Portland Seven... The FBI described the fingerprint match as "100% verified". According to the court documents in judge Ann Aiken's decision, this information was largely "fabricated and concocted by the FBI and DOJ". This is why I'm reluctant to give the govt. my fingerprints, but my friends think I'm overreacting.
- selectodude 9y ago
  In no way is that remotely acceptable, but the dude got $2 million. The government making a habit of that behavior would get expensive quickly.
  - ComputerGuru 9y ago
    Are you kidding, that’s your defense? $2M in taxpayer money is nothing to them. Just like the expense of incarceration didn’t bring down jail terms for minor offenses. Or settlements for police brutality haven’t affected that one iota either.
    - selectodude 9y ago
      If they did that to ten thousand US citizens (.0031 percent chance of being messed with), a 2 million dollar settlement would cost them $20bn. Affordable, but certainly not a rounding error line item.
      - dx034 9y ago
        The officers working on the case do not decide about the govt budget. I'm not even sure if the government tracks expenses from those cases and would know how to react if the costs escalate.

el_benhameen 9y ago

Have child, just got Pre Check. Kids under 12 don't need their own known traveler number. Pack light, gate check the car seat, and you're pretty close to the parent post's timing. Even if you have to check luggage, Southwest's check-in lines are short more often than not.

kelnos 9y ago

I would assume that adding children to the mix also increases your time to prepare and get to and from some future HSR train station as well, so it's probably a wash.

baddox 9y ago

I would assume that the vast majority of train passengers between LA and SF would also not be children.