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This is great. I just don't understand why mobile plans are so expensive in the US. When I traveled to Israel I bought a local sim with no contract. It's about

This is great. I just don't understand why mobile plans are so expensive in the US. When I traveled to Israel I bought a local sim with no contract. It's about $15/month for 10GB plus unlimited text/calls. They don't even offer there plans with 2GB data, it's 10GB or more.

Shoothe 9y ago
For 15$ at my operator I've got two numbers sharing the same unlimited text, unlimited sms/MMS plan with 30 GB of data. Actually it's 15$ max, if I use less I pay less. The "contract" that I have can be withdrawn with a month's notice and that's a standard service, so paying $60 for 6GB sounds extremely expensive.
fastball 9y ago
US providers are expected to provide national coverage, in a country that has a much wider spread of population, while also being approximately the size of Europe. It's not exactly an easy area to cover.
- Retric 9y ago
  Cellphone towers minimize the impact of density. Lower density and you can use fewer towers. The limit is one cellphone tower within 45 miles of you or 1 tower per ~6,000 square miles as they can have up to 45 mile radious ^ 2 * pi - overlapping area. Continual US is only 3 million square miles or ~500 cellphone towers. You do need significantly more towers for various reasons, but towers only run 250,000$ aka ~150 million to cover US own. However it's really spectrum and city's that are expensive not empty land.
- ForHackernews 9y ago
  In the UK, Three provides nationwide coverage + free roaming in 71 other nations (including USA)[0] for as little as £13/month for 4 GB of data. [0] http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home [1] http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones
  - avianlyric 9y ago
    On EE I’m currently getting unlimited texts/calls and 30GB of data (with roaming in EU and US) for £17.99/month (~$25/month). Makes US prices look crazy.
  - fastball 9y ago
    Three's coverage is garbage outside the big cities (and sometimes garbage in them!), and Feel At Home is never 4G.
    - ForHackernews 9y ago
      Everything except Verizon is garbage in rural America.
  - madsohm 9y ago
    They have a clause in the fine print, that says that you have to be in your home country at least once a month, in order to use this service. I thought it was great for me staying abroad for 6 months, but I could only use it for a little more than the first.
_jgdh 9y ago
> $15/month for 10GB plus unlimited text/calls I just don't understand why mobile plans are so expensive in Israel. In India you can get 1.5GB per day plus unlimited text/calls for $6 a month. If I had to speculate, I'd say it has something to do with competition lowering prices.

Shoothe 9y ago

For 15$ at my operator I've got two numbers sharing the same unlimited text, unlimited sms/MMS plan with 30 GB of data. Actually it's 15$ max, if I use less I pay less. The "contract" that I have can be withdrawn with a month's notice and that's a standard service, so paying $60 for 6GB sounds extremely expensive.

fastball 9y ago

US providers are expected to provide national coverage, in a country that has a much wider spread of population, while also being approximately the size of Europe. It's not exactly an easy area to cover.

Retric 9y ago
Cellphone towers minimize the impact of density. Lower density and you can use fewer towers. The limit is one cellphone tower within 45 miles of you or 1 tower per ~6,000 square miles as they can have up to 45 mile radious ^ 2 * pi - overlapping area. Continual US is only 3 million square miles or ~500 cellphone towers. You do need significantly more towers for various reasons, but towers only run 250,000$ aka ~150 million to cover US own. However it's really spectrum and city's that are expensive not empty land.
ForHackernews 9y ago
In the UK, Three provides nationwide coverage + free roaming in 71 other nations (including USA)[0] for as little as £13/month for 4 GB of data. [0] http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home [1] http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones
- avianlyric 9y ago
  On EE I’m currently getting unlimited texts/calls and 30GB of data (with roaming in EU and US) for £17.99/month (~$25/month). Makes US prices look crazy.
- fastball 9y ago
  Three's coverage is garbage outside the big cities (and sometimes garbage in them!), and Feel At Home is never 4G.
  - ForHackernews 9y ago
    Everything except Verizon is garbage in rural America.
- madsohm 9y ago
  They have a clause in the fine print, that says that you have to be in your home country at least once a month, in order to use this service. I thought it was great for me staying abroad for 6 months, but I could only use it for a little more than the first.

_jgdh 9y ago

> $15/month for 10GB plus unlimited text/calls I just don't understand why mobile plans are so expensive in Israel. In India you can get 1.5GB per day plus unlimited text/calls for $6 a month. If I had to speculate, I'd say it has something to do with competition lowering prices.