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in the first example the doctor is compelling the patient to do something and the patient exercises her right to refuse. In the second example the patient is co
by lolsal 9y ago
in the first example the doctor is compelling the patient to do something and the patient exercises her right to refuse. In the second example the patient is compelling to the doctor to do something and the doctor exercises her right to refuse. You never have a 'right' to compel another person to do anything. You may have legal, ethical or moral reasons to compel someone to do something, but you never have a right to.
- harryh 9y agoI think this is mostly right but it is worth noting that in some cases doctors are obligated to act. If I run into the ER with a serious issue and a doctor says "sorry, I can't treat you right now, it's my coffee break" that can be malpractice.
- lolsal 9y agoUnderstood - but that is a legal or ethical obligation, not one of your rights.
- ABCLAW 9y ago>You never have a 'right' to compel another person to do anything. There are plenty of instances where you have the right to compel another person to do things.
- passivepinetree 9y agoI'm not disagreeing with you, but your case would be stronger if you could provide some examples.
- ABCLAW 9y agoYou walk into my house. I have the right to compel you to leave. You try to stab me. I have the right to compel you to stop with reasonable force. You arbitrarily try to deny my passport application because you don't like my face. I get a Writ of Mandamus issued against you and compel you to do your job. We enter into an agreement which you breach. I obtain an order mandating specific performance and compel you to personally do what we agreed upon. You're wanted for arrest and I'm a peace officer. I compel you to come down to the station. I can go on all day. The poster above you does not understand what a 'right' is and is trying to make a point about positive vs negative rights, but doesn't actually understand the distinction.
- lolsal 9y agoYou just listed a bunch of examples where people are legally compelled to do something, which I mentioned. > The poster above you does not understand what a 'right' is and is trying to make a point about positive vs negative rights, but doesn't actually understand the distinction. Ok. Nice talking with you. Have a good day.
- ABCLAW 9y agoI know you mentioned it - you just weren't correct. Hope the clarification was helpful. Here's some additional reading if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights
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