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> Encrypted: As Cloudflare makes all connections secure with HTTPS there is no need for a VPN. If Cloudbleed has taught us something, it's that cloudfare idea
by nolok 9y ago
> Encrypted: As Cloudflare makes all connections secure with HTTPS there is no need for a VPN.
If Cloudbleed has taught us something, it's that cloudfare idea of "fully encrypted" doesn't fully include what's happening inside their own (virtual) walls.
Some may still consider the way they do it ok for websites. I don't, encryption between my customer and me, not between them and cloudflare, opening their data to another actor they have to trust without even knowing it, especially since most of my customers and myself are in Europe not the USA, so I don't want any US authorities to be able to intercept my stuff through them.
But for your company internal stuff ? I get that most companies don't really get pressured to take good care of users data because leak usually hurt the consumers themselves the most, not them, and they don't get blamed for it much. But surely it's not hard to see how opening your own internals is asking for troubles ...
You give all access to cloudflare, you give all access to bugs in cloudflare's software (like cloudbleed), you give all access to any authorities with influence over cloudflare, you give all access to hacker who can get inside cloudflare (even if they only get one small opening into where you data comes through), ... And this time it's not your customers' stuff, it's yours (not saying it doesn't matter when it's theirs, but it's easier to dismiss by Mr Bean Counting Project Manager).
If I am wrong in assuming this and the connection is made user to final endpoint without decryption at cloudflare level I couldn't see it when looking at that page.
- anonacct37 9y ago> If Cloudbleed has taught us something, it's that cloudfare idea of "fully encrypted" doesn't fully include what's happening inside their own (virtual) walls. I think that's a little unfair. Cloudbleed specifically referred to an application that parsed HTML. There's a pretty big logical dependency between "able to optimize our HTML" and "can see our HTML". I feel like the field of homomorphic encryption and HTML parsing is... non-existent.
- nolok 9y agoI both agree and don't see what it changes in my message. Yes, it's obvious that they need to see it to be able to do several features they offer. Doesn't mean it's a good idea to let them see it. Trading security for convenience has never really been a good deal, and this new product is about doing it with your company's internal.