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May I have a pure theoretical argument about high order spying based on a naive moral principle, i.e. Treat the others the way you like to be treated. 1.I don'
by jjcc 9y ago
May I have a pure theoretical argument about high order spying based on a naive moral principle, i.e. Treat the others the way you like to be treated.
1.I don't like to be spied. So I don't spy anybody not spying on me. First order spy is not good. Don't do it.
2.If I found I'm spied by a notorious group(Maybe CIA), then I have to find out how I'm spied. I'll use spy method which the other group is using, bribery, steal etc. to get the information of the informant stealing my secret. Because this spying is high order spying, i.e. spy on spy, then it is justified.
Does that make sense?
- toyg 9y agoIt makes sense but it’s naive, you’ve basically tied an arm behind your back before going into the savagest fight of your life. Information is the lifeblood of policy, so you want as much as possible, all the time, regardless of how it’s gathered. You can make exceptions towards your citizens because of some high ideal (or more prosaic needs for social peace), but everyone else is a natural target and fair game. Even allies spy on each other, just a bit less because there is often no need (information will be willingly provided). This is why we need supranational orgs (UN, WTO etc): because foreign relationships, left to their natural state, are a lawless Far West.