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If you have traction, the money will come. But really, what can you do that's better than YouTube? Honest question. I think that YouTube has reached Google lev

by dvt 9y ago

If you have traction, the money will come. But really, what can you do that's better than YouTube? Honest question. I think that YouTube has reached Google levels of optimization. Sure, it could be better, but not better enough that people are willing to switch.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> But really, what can you do that's better than YouTube? For any specialized market, probably a lot; YouTube may be the ultimate least-common-denominator user-submitted-video streaming service, but it's not the only one there is room for.
- dvt 9y ago
  > For any specialized market, probably a lot This is doubly true for services like Google Search, and yet (for example) security-oriented engines like DDG are barely making a dent. I honestly don't think niche is the way to go if you're trying to go after Google/YouTube/Facebook. You'd need to figure out a core issue or core need that has been overlooked. And I just don't really see one.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > This is doubly true for services like Google Search, and yet (for example) security-oriented engines like DDG are barely making a dent. DDG is making a huge dent in the narrow segment it is designed to appeal to, which is all any specialized service can hope for. I think DDG fans persistently overestimate how many people find Google’s personalization a net cost. > I honestly don't think niche is the way to go if you're trying to go after Google/YouTube/Facebook. You'd need to figure out a core issue or core need that has been overlooked. Sure, if you are trying to replace one of those as the dominant mass market player in its domain you need to do that. Also, I think you are more likely to find a core need by dealing with a need that seems niche but is really just more pronounced and visible in that particular niche than by digging around in the dark for a core need.
    - dvt 9y ago
      > Sure, if you are trying to replace one of those as the dominant mass market player in its domain you need to do that. The parent post was discussing disrupting the major player -- YouTube. Me making some tiny website that caters to videos of, say, amateur astronomy, while interesting and successful in its own right, would not so much as make a dent (let alone disrupt) YouTube. That was my point: that disrupting YouTube (like disrupting Google) seems, to me, nigh impossible.
      - exDM69 9y ago
        It's not just disrupting YouTube, it's also about creating a sustainable service. Video streaming has enormous costs which you need to get back somehow. Unless your niche audience is willing to pay per minute, it is going to be difficult to pay the bills.

by dvt 9y ago

dragonwriter 9y ago

> But really, what can you do that's better than YouTube? For any specialized market, probably a lot; YouTube may be the ultimate least-common-denominator user-submitted-video streaming service, but it's not the only one there is room for.

dvt 9y ago
> For any specialized market, probably a lot This is doubly true for services like Google Search, and yet (for example) security-oriented engines like DDG are barely making a dent. I honestly don't think niche is the way to go if you're trying to go after Google/YouTube/Facebook. You'd need to figure out a core issue or core need that has been overlooked. And I just don't really see one.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > This is doubly true for services like Google Search, and yet (for example) security-oriented engines like DDG are barely making a dent. DDG is making a huge dent in the narrow segment it is designed to appeal to, which is all any specialized service can hope for. I think DDG fans persistently overestimate how many people find Google’s personalization a net cost. > I honestly don't think niche is the way to go if you're trying to go after Google/YouTube/Facebook. You'd need to figure out a core issue or core need that has been overlooked. Sure, if you are trying to replace one of those as the dominant mass market player in its domain you need to do that. Also, I think you are more likely to find a core need by dealing with a need that seems niche but is really just more pronounced and visible in that particular niche than by digging around in the dark for a core need.
  - dvt 9y ago
    > Sure, if you are trying to replace one of those as the dominant mass market player in its domain you need to do that. The parent post was discussing disrupting the major player -- YouTube. Me making some tiny website that caters to videos of, say, amateur astronomy, while interesting and successful in its own right, would not so much as make a dent (let alone disrupt) YouTube. That was my point: that disrupting YouTube (like disrupting Google) seems, to me, nigh impossible.
    - exDM69 9y ago
      It's not just disrupting YouTube, it's also about creating a sustainable service. Video streaming has enormous costs which you need to get back somehow. Unless your niche audience is willing to pay per minute, it is going to be difficult to pay the bills.