Yeah, plus with DHS we have a bureaucracy that deals in skirting the line with people's rights by its very nature, and for kicks it's a hastily assembled bureau

Yeah, plus with DHS we have a bureaucracy that deals in skirting the line with people's rights by its very nature, and for kicks it's a hastily assembled bureaucracy of bureacracies. If we figure double for each of those factors, that's 4x.