> "exclusion" that takes into account wider social factors I don't think I am, since I'm having trouble figuring out what you mean by this, but I'd like to he

> "exclusion" that takes into account wider social factors I don't think I am, since I'm having trouble figuring out what you mean by this, but I'd like to hear more. > until they actually attempt to enter Yes, basically. I should rephrase: the difference is not "not included" vs "excluded", but whether other people are deciding if you are part of the group or not. > Sometimes exclusion is a good policy. Also definitely! Both philosophically, and practically.