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So you're relying on friends/family to do the driving if you're outside of lyft/public-transit areas e.g. on vacation in a rental car? Not having a car is a gre

So you're relying on friends/family to do the driving if you're outside of lyft/public-transit areas e.g. on vacation in a rental car? Not having a car is a great idea if you can get away with it - not having a license basically means you can't help out when necessary.

vidarh 9y ago
It doesn't become necessary unless you make it necessary. It makes some places harder or more expensive to get to, but there are plenty of other places to go to. It's a tradeoff, and obviously if you want to go places where there's no public transport options at all on a regular basis, it's probably a good idea to at least have a license, but for my part that's simply been enough of a reason to bother getting a license.
paulcole 9y ago
>So you're relying on friends/family to do the driving if you're outside of lyft/public-transit areas e.g. on vacation in a rental car I actually have moral objections to both Lyft and Uber. Other than that I only take vacations in places where public transit is an option. For more rural vacations, I usually just ride my bike there. Plenty of fun places to bike to from where I live (Portland, OR). Otherwise, yes, someone else does the driving. My partner and I go out of town by car once or twice a year and she drives.
icebraining 9y ago
It's funny the difficulty that car owner show at understanding non-car-owners. Why would you assume that someone without a driver's license would go on vacation in a rental car in the first place? By the way, this might not be true in the US, but in other places there's usually some sort of shared transit. Even if it's not a city bus or a ride-sharing network, there's usually some person with an unofficial "taxi" that drives others if you give them a call, or someone with a passenger van that makes a weekly trip to a city for a few regulars. Old and poor people everywhere can't drive cars, so these solutions are widespread, you just need to ask around (calling the local shops usually does the trick).
- goialoq 9y ago
  Old and poor people suffer severe lifestyle degradations, the don't simply avoid the "waste" of care expenses.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    I'm not sure what made you think I meant otherwise. All I'm saying is that their situation happens to create a viable market for people willing to drive others around. I wasn't saying they were "lucky" for not being able to own a car, or anything like that.
megy 9y ago
Why would this person hire a car on a holiday? What a ridiculous proposition.

vidarh 9y ago

It doesn't become necessary unless you make it necessary. It makes some places harder or more expensive to get to, but there are plenty of other places to go to. It's a tradeoff, and obviously if you want to go places where there's no public transport options at all on a regular basis, it's probably a good idea to at least have a license, but for my part that's simply been enough of a reason to bother getting a license.

paulcole 9y ago

>So you're relying on friends/family to do the driving if you're outside of lyft/public-transit areas e.g. on vacation in a rental car I actually have moral objections to both Lyft and Uber. Other than that I only take vacations in places where public transit is an option. For more rural vacations, I usually just ride my bike there. Plenty of fun places to bike to from where I live (Portland, OR). Otherwise, yes, someone else does the driving. My partner and I go out of town by car once or twice a year and she drives.

icebraining 9y ago

It's funny the difficulty that car owner show at understanding non-car-owners. Why would you assume that someone without a driver's license would go on vacation in a rental car in the first place? By the way, this might not be true in the US, but in other places there's usually some sort of shared transit. Even if it's not a city bus or a ride-sharing network, there's usually some person with an unofficial "taxi" that drives others if you give them a call, or someone with a passenger van that makes a weekly trip to a city for a few regulars. Old and poor people everywhere can't drive cars, so these solutions are widespread, you just need to ask around (calling the local shops usually does the trick).

goialoq 9y ago
Old and poor people suffer severe lifestyle degradations, the don't simply avoid the "waste" of care expenses.
- icebraining 9y ago
  I'm not sure what made you think I meant otherwise. All I'm saying is that their situation happens to create a viable market for people willing to drive others around. I wasn't saying they were "lucky" for not being able to own a car, or anything like that.

megy 9y ago

Why would this person hire a car on a holiday? What a ridiculous proposition.