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Bitcoin is so divisive you've managed to shit on his parents to win an argument. An argument that you then concede, saying that it doesn't matter whether BTC i

Bitcoin is so divisive you've managed to shit on his parents to win an argument. An argument that you then concede, saying that it doesn't matter whether BTC is legal or not because you can always sell it online. If it's illegal, doesn't it's value go way down? If you literally risk jailtime to sell it (or more accurate, to convert it to fiat eventually)

adamnemecek 9y ago
> Bitcoin is so divisive you've managed to shit on his parents to win an argument. Not really, I dislike the fact that he volunteers this information. Replace ivory with child pornography (ethically they aren't that different). Would you still defend op's parents? Also note, it was a side note, I didn't say it to win an argument. > If it's illegal, doesn't it's value go way down? If you literally risk jailtime to sell it (or more accurate, to convert it to fiat eventually) So like all governments at once will outlaw doing anything with crypto? Like not regulate it, even if heavily, they'll just basically make owning crypto as illegal as owning idk, child porn (pardon for the repeat analogy). Like you aren't realizing the impossibility of making something like crypto illegal.
- virgilp 9y ago
  "Heavy regulation" is quite enough to take any particular coin to 0 value. > Not really, I dislike the fact that he volunteers this information. Replace ivory with child pornography (ethically they aren't that different). Well, they're quite different. Morally, legally, whatever, the society at large assigns larger value to a human than to an animal - any animal. Plus, they didn't do anything illegally - at the time they bought it, it was legal to buy it and sell it anywhere in the world. You're now eating meat. It's quite conceivable that there might be a future where eating meat obtained through killing animals is considered as barbaric as you are now considering ivory trade. Different time, different people. I only told you about ivory because it was __relevant__. It's a thing you can relate to - that people did in the past, without giving it much thought. Ponzi schemes are outlawed and considered imoral - do you consider _impossible_ a future where a marketing campaign convinces people that crypto is just a form of ponzi scheme, and participating in one is not just stupid and illegal, but also imoral?
  - adamnemecek 9y ago
    It would have to heavy regulation everywhere in the world.
    - virgilp 9y ago
      Not "everywhere". Just a few countries. China, US, EU would probably suffice.
      - adamnemecek 9y ago
        Not gonna happen like 100% the same and what not. How do you even outlaw crypto?
- gspetr 9y ago
  > ethically they aren't that different Not the best things to compare. Builtin and culturally acquired anthropocentrism shall not be denied: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

adamnemecek 9y ago

> Bitcoin is so divisive you've managed to shit on his parents to win an argument. Not really, I dislike the fact that he volunteers this information. Replace ivory with child pornography (ethically they aren't that different). Would you still defend op's parents? Also note, it was a side note, I didn't say it to win an argument. > If it's illegal, doesn't it's value go way down? If you literally risk jailtime to sell it (or more accurate, to convert it to fiat eventually) So like all governments at once will outlaw doing anything with crypto? Like not regulate it, even if heavily, they'll just basically make owning crypto as illegal as owning idk, child porn (pardon for the repeat analogy). Like you aren't realizing the impossibility of making something like crypto illegal.

virgilp 9y ago
"Heavy regulation" is quite enough to take any particular coin to 0 value. > Not really, I dislike the fact that he volunteers this information. Replace ivory with child pornography (ethically they aren't that different). Well, they're quite different. Morally, legally, whatever, the society at large assigns larger value to a human than to an animal - any animal. Plus, they didn't do anything illegally - at the time they bought it, it was legal to buy it and sell it anywhere in the world. You're now eating meat. It's quite conceivable that there might be a future where eating meat obtained through killing animals is considered as barbaric as you are now considering ivory trade. Different time, different people. I only told you about ivory because it was __relevant__. It's a thing you can relate to - that people did in the past, without giving it much thought. Ponzi schemes are outlawed and considered imoral - do you consider _impossible_ a future where a marketing campaign convinces people that crypto is just a form of ponzi scheme, and participating in one is not just stupid and illegal, but also imoral?
- adamnemecek 9y ago
  It would have to heavy regulation everywhere in the world.
  - virgilp 9y ago
    Not "everywhere". Just a few countries. China, US, EU would probably suffice.
    - adamnemecek 9y ago
      Not gonna happen like 100% the same and what not. How do you even outlaw crypto?
gspetr 9y ago
> ethically they aren't that different Not the best things to compare. Builtin and culturally acquired anthropocentrism shall not be denied: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."