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> You, as not a woman, are not being included. This is very different from exclusion Correct me as my interpretation may be completely off, but are you using a
by dictum 9y ago
> You, as not a woman, are not being included. This is very different from exclusion
Correct me as my interpretation may be completely off, but are you using a definition of "exclusion" that takes into account wider social factors?
I'm inclined to see "not being included" as somebody's state until they actually attempt to enter. If they're denied entry (outright denied, or never allowed to enter and kept in limbo), "not included" is just euphemism for "excluded".
Sometimes exclusion is a good policy.
(Two disclaimers: I'm not complaining about the requirements/policies of Leap, and I really hope it becomes a healthy, viable community. I also understand a lot of the annoyance with mansplaining — hate the term, enjoy the concept — but I think this is one case where the desire to make everyone feel included makes it hard to establish closed communities with better policies.)
- RangerScience 9y ago> "exclusion" that takes into account wider social factors I don't think I am, since I'm having trouble figuring out what you mean by this, but I'd like to hear more. > until they actually attempt to enter Yes, basically. I should rephrase: the difference is not "not included" vs "excluded", but whether other people are deciding if you are part of the group or not. > Sometimes exclusion is a good policy. Also definitely! Both philosophically, and practically.