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The state sent out a death threat! People are just letting the government know how they feel. The design of this system is grossly negligent, which IS a manage

The state sent out a death threat! People are just letting the government know how they feel. The design of this system is grossly negligent, which IS a management problem. It does look like a web page. How is the page served? An internal secure setup on a private network? Is the browser ever updated? Is there javascript? The number of failure modes on this type of setup is unconstrained. How are updates tested? It appears to me that somebody just put something together without any design or validation process at all. This is fine in many settings, but not for critical public safety infrastructure.

mannykannot 9y ago
A warning, whether mistaken or not, is not a death threat, and a death threat is not just a complaint.
- jaclaz 9y ago
  >A warning, whether mistaken or not, is not a death threat, and a death threat is not just a complaint. I don't think there is exactly the same crime in all the states of the US, but there is in some states (as well as in many other countries) the crime of "false public alarm". Example, you start crying "Fire!" in a crowded cinema or public place: http://mollolawfirm.com/resources/criminal-law-resources/false-public-alarm/ http://mollolawfirm.com/resources/criminal-law-resources/fal... P.S.: Meantime in Japan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/first-hawaii-now-japan-sends-a-false-alarm-about-incoming-north-korean-missile/2018/01/16/d8961ef4-fac1-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/first-hawa... but this was not the governemnet, it was the NHK and they were very fast to send a correct message.
  - kevindqc 9y ago
    There's a difference between crying "Fire!" to willingly cause panic over nothing (ie: intent to cause harm), and a mistake... Text from your first link even says that: > A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he knowingly causes such false alarm [...]
    - jaclaz 9y ago
      >There's a difference between crying "Fire!" to willingly cause panic over nothing (ie: intent to cause harm), and a mistake... Sure there is a difference, but - again not all states/countries Laws are the same - it may depend on who has to prove that it was a mistake. And of course it may be classified as an actual crime or as a minor civil infraction.

mannykannot 9y ago

A warning, whether mistaken or not, is not a death threat, and a death threat is not just a complaint.

jaclaz 9y ago
>A warning, whether mistaken or not, is not a death threat, and a death threat is not just a complaint. I don't think there is exactly the same crime in all the states of the US, but there is in some states (as well as in many other countries) the crime of "false public alarm". Example, you start crying "Fire!" in a crowded cinema or public place: http://mollolawfirm.com/resources/criminal-law-resources/false-public-alarm/ http://mollolawfirm.com/resources/criminal-law-resources/fal... P.S.: Meantime in Japan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/first-hawaii-now-japan-sends-a-false-alarm-about-incoming-north-korean-missile/2018/01/16/d8961ef4-fac1-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/first-hawa... but this was not the governemnet, it was the NHK and they were very fast to send a correct message.
- kevindqc 9y ago
  There's a difference between crying "Fire!" to willingly cause panic over nothing (ie: intent to cause harm), and a mistake... Text from your first link even says that: > A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he knowingly causes such false alarm [...]
  - jaclaz 9y ago
    >There's a difference between crying "Fire!" to willingly cause panic over nothing (ie: intent to cause harm), and a mistake... Sure there is a difference, but - again not all states/countries Laws are the same - it may depend on who has to prove that it was a mistake. And of course it may be classified as an actual crime or as a minor civil infraction.