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You double checked second hand sources which don't link to primary sources, so at best you are speculating (that) I were wrong, thank you very much. Edit: And

You double checked second hand sources which don't link to primary sources, so at best you are speculating (that) I were wrong, thank you very much. Edit: And either way, I didn't contest make do as it is used now, I merely hinted at a different origin. So, by that line of reasoning, if make due is in use, it is correct simply by merit of custom, as well. PS: And this is why these comments are frowned upon, they invariably lead to discussion without a slight chance of consensus. PPS: But since I tried it already, googles index of old books shows a CLEAR preference for make due. In my opinion though, I'd settle on neither is correct, just like shortenings like "I'd" aren't correct to use in writing. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=make+do%2C+make+due&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cmake%20do%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cmake%20due%3B%2Cc0 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=make+do%2C+mak...

globuous 9y ago
You're right you're right. My sources weren't primary. I liked grammatist because they had some sort of ethimological insight as to why it's do rather than due. Anyway, here's a primary source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/make_do https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/make_do Happy ? :) P.S. use 'make due' if you want. Parent was just trying to be nice. P.S.S Sourcing grammatist again (soooorrryy): 'While it’s tempting to call make due a misspelling and leave it at that, make due appears often enough (about once for every ten instances of make do in a current Google News search) to have gained some acceptance, and some people (including commenters on this post) find it at least as logical as make do. Perhaps due, which is mainly an adjective, could here bear the sense appropriate (as in, we have done due diligence), or perhaps it could mean sufficient (as in, we have due cause to be thankful). And because the phrase is an idiom, its logic can be loose.'
- falsprofet 9y ago
  Oxford dictionary is not a primary source, and if I'm not mistaken, they subscribe to the descriptive persuasion, i.e. collecting lexemes as they are in use, especially the online version, and others use it as prescriptive source. All I see is "I always thought it was make do, because that fits better into my primary vocabulary and I don't speak French so I don't know how to pronounce dew, I mean do, err I mean ... that's just like your opinion, man". I liked the comment noting the uptick (up take?) of make-do after WW2 much better -- which coincided with the invasion of often underedumacated Americans into Europe. Here's a nice quote > ... which shows how careful the Poet was to make due provision for his amendment. If you had met due dilligence and followed through from the ngram search I linked before, you'd find plenty more sources from before 1660 like that, one with make do from 1660, and plenty american usage after 1945.
justtopointout 9y ago
If you look at the actual search results in books for "make due" in your link, you can see that they're used differently. 'Make due' and 'make do' are different phrases which mean different things. I can't see any evidence of people using 'make due' how they did (and we still do) use 'make do' today from the results in your link?

globuous 9y ago

You're right you're right. My sources weren't primary. I liked grammatist because they had some sort of ethimological insight as to why it's do rather than due. Anyway, here's a primary source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/make_do https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/make_do Happy ? :) P.S. use 'make due' if you want. Parent was just trying to be nice. P.S.S Sourcing grammatist again (soooorrryy): 'While it’s tempting to call make due a misspelling and leave it at that, make due appears often enough (about once for every ten instances of make do in a current Google News search) to have gained some acceptance, and some people (including commenters on this post) find it at least as logical as make do. Perhaps due, which is mainly an adjective, could here bear the sense appropriate (as in, we have done due diligence), or perhaps it could mean sufficient (as in, we have due cause to be thankful). And because the phrase is an idiom, its logic can be loose.'

falsprofet 9y ago
Oxford dictionary is not a primary source, and if I'm not mistaken, they subscribe to the descriptive persuasion, i.e. collecting lexemes as they are in use, especially the online version, and others use it as prescriptive source. All I see is "I always thought it was make do, because that fits better into my primary vocabulary and I don't speak French so I don't know how to pronounce dew, I mean do, err I mean ... that's just like your opinion, man". I liked the comment noting the uptick (up take?) of make-do after WW2 much better -- which coincided with the invasion of often underedumacated Americans into Europe. Here's a nice quote > ... which shows how careful the Poet was to make due provision for his amendment. If you had met due dilligence and followed through from the ngram search I linked before, you'd find plenty more sources from before 1660 like that, one with make do from 1660, and plenty american usage after 1945.

justtopointout 9y ago

If you look at the actual search results in books for "make due" in your link, you can see that they're used differently. 'Make due' and 'make do' are different phrases which mean different things. I can't see any evidence of people using 'make due' how they did (and we still do) use 'make do' today from the results in your link?