> Finally, what is it with sysadmins maintaining large scripts while at the same time quipping that they are not programmers? A script is very much a program, a

> Finally, what is it with sysadmins maintaining large scripts while at the same time quipping that they are not programmers? A script is very much a program, and a scripting language is very much a programming language. You are correct, but I mostly use this preface to let people know I don't have the detailed formal training in programming most devs do. So while I can wiggle my way around perl/python/bash/awk/sed and other "systems languages" just fine I am constantly finding out how much I don't know. I suppose in the early hacker days sense of the word most of us are programmers.