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English and lots of other languages have word with apostrophes in the middle, seems like Google would have worked out the technical issues. And for hashtags you

by geowwy 9y ago

English and lots of other languages have word with apostrophes in the middle, seems like Google would have worked out the technical issues. And for hashtags you just omit the apostrophes. It doesn’t even look that inelegant to me: Barlyq adamdar ty’mysynan azat ja’ne qadir-qasi’eti men quqyqtary ten’ bolyp du’ni’ege keledi. Adamdarg’a aqyl-parasat, ar-ojdan berilgen, sondyqtan olar bir-birimen ty’ystyq, bay’yrmaldyq qarym-qatynas jasay’lary ti‘is.

ithkuil 9y ago
your quotation has two version of the apostrophe (’ and ‘, two different unicode points); is that intentional? I wonder if people would complain less if instead of the apostrophe another unused letter was used, such as "x" (or something else?) Barlyq adamdar tyxmysynan azat jaxne qadir-qasixeti men quqyqtary tenx bolyp duxnixege keledi. Adamdargxa aqyl-parasat, ar-ojdan berilgen, sondyqtan olar bir-birimen tyxystyq, bayxyrmaldyq qarym-qatynas jasayxlary tixis.
- smcl 9y ago
  I wonder why they did it - perhaps they were trying to avoid having digraphs mapping to a single sound. An alternative might be carons + acute accents to modify the letter like the Czech, Slovak and in the Balkans so in the example from the article below... > Under this new system, the Kazakh word for cherry will be written as s’i’i’e, and pronounced she-ee-ye. You could define the alphabet so that this is written "šííě". To be honest it seems like this is a tricky example to map to any latin-based alphabet. Maybe diacritics were avoided to avoid internationalisation issues (i.e. you could easily fall back to the locale "en-us" and your Kazakh doc still looks alright)
  - SyneRyder 9y ago
    > Maybe diacritics were avoided to avoid internationalisation issues Yes, the article quotes the president as saying: "There should not be any hooks or superfluous dots that cannot be put straight into a computer."
    - smcl 9y ago
      Ah fair enough. I mostly skimmed, but searched through for "diacritic", "acute" and "accent" among others to see if it was mentioned - didn't think to use these.

by geowwy 9y ago

ithkuil 9y ago

your quotation has two version of the apostrophe (’ and ‘, two different unicode points); is that intentional? I wonder if people would complain less if instead of the apostrophe another unused letter was used, such as "x" (or something else?) Barlyq adamdar tyxmysynan azat jaxne qadir-qasixeti men quqyqtary tenx bolyp duxnixege keledi. Adamdargxa aqyl-parasat, ar-ojdan berilgen, sondyqtan olar bir-birimen tyxystyq, bayxyrmaldyq qarym-qatynas jasayxlary tixis.

smcl 9y ago
I wonder why they did it - perhaps they were trying to avoid having digraphs mapping to a single sound. An alternative might be carons + acute accents to modify the letter like the Czech, Slovak and in the Balkans so in the example from the article below... > Under this new system, the Kazakh word for cherry will be written as s’i’i’e, and pronounced she-ee-ye. You could define the alphabet so that this is written "šííě". To be honest it seems like this is a tricky example to map to any latin-based alphabet. Maybe diacritics were avoided to avoid internationalisation issues (i.e. you could easily fall back to the locale "en-us" and your Kazakh doc still looks alright)
- SyneRyder 9y ago
  > Maybe diacritics were avoided to avoid internationalisation issues Yes, the article quotes the president as saying: "There should not be any hooks or superfluous dots that cannot be put straight into a computer."
  - smcl 9y ago
    Ah fair enough. I mostly skimmed, but searched through for "diacritic", "acute" and "accent" among others to see if it was mentioned - didn't think to use these.