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Jitsi: Open-Source Video Conferencing
- flukus 9y agoAnyone got experience with it as a skype replacement? If it has IM functionality and desktop sharing with voice chat and it works remotely well then I'd love to replace skype and webex.
- avodonosov 9y agoSo you say desktop sharing is not available in Jitsi?
- jdoliner 9y agoIt claims to have desktop sharing and presentations. https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/
- nextos 9y agoTheir WebRTC site at https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/ works incredibly well. It's the best I've seen, anonymous, with tons of videoconference functionalities and nice bandwidth tracking tools. And being WebRTC, it needs no plugins on popular desktop webbrowsers. Sadly, mobile ones do not support WebRTC. But their app is open, and works very well.
- jhoechtl 9y agoAny experience using it on Wayland Linux? I guess there it wouldn't be so easy to grab other windows content without display manager support (which AFAIK does not yet exist and if is specific for the implementation Gnome, KDE, Enlightment, ...)
- majewsky 9y agoAFAIK (and I can be totally wrong here) screen grabbing is part of the Wayland protocol, but most (all?) compositors restrict which processes are allowed to use that API. For Sway (which is what I use), I've seen a separate config file for this. So it might be worth taking a look at the documentation for your compositor.
- kimi 9y agoI use jitsi meet everyday - it has desktop sharing (well, desktop showing) and it usually "just works". Better than skype for the casual chat.
- thekelvinliu 9y agonow that matrix.org supports jitsi, i think something like riot.im will cover all those bases. https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html https://about.riot.im https://about.riot.im
- f2n 9y agoWhat does "supports jitsi" mean? Jitsi is an XMPP client, last I checked, are you just saying Matrix supports XMPP?
- thekelvinliu 9y agoit means there's a first party integration (matrix calls them widgets) with jitsi, enabling video conferencing on matrix platforms. https://jitsi.org/news/matrix-adds-support-for-video-with-jitsi/ https://jitsi.org/news/matrix-adds-support-for-video-with-ji...
- dest 9y agoYou probably mean "third party"
- supermatt 9y agoThat depends on who made the integration (matrix, jitsi, or other)
- thekelvinliu 9y agoright yeah i mean first party, since i'm under the impression that matrix.org developed the jitsi widget for their platform; i could be wrong about who actually did what though.
- dest 9y agoJitsi Meet is a WebRTC client
- rocky1138 9y agoI used it a number of years back. It seemed to be really buggy and not work most of the time. I really hope things have improved because a FOSS solution to teleconferencing would be dandy.
- privong 9y agoMy recollection is similar, with usage starting ~3.5 years ago and ending ~18 months ago. Jitsi was slow, would often crash. But it seemed to be the best video-conferencing SIP client I could find that worked on enough platforms that I could use it and also guide my family through using it.
- rocky1138 9y agoI wouldn't mind supporting a FOSS teleconferencing solution on Patreon.
- est 9y agoDiscord Zoom.us
- flukus 9y agoBoth are hosted, this is a no go. Both are also proprietary, skype has just taught us why this is a bad idea. In addition, discord is an electron app, I'm going to avoid it as long as I can.
- kenning 9y agoCurious, why does this make you want to avoid it?
- jhoechtl 9y agoI will answer your question anyhow assuming that you honestly don't know: Electron Apps always desguise as whatever they want to be yet they are a fat Web browser, consume insane amounts of memeory for what they do, are all to often lagging when used. They open the door for script kiddies, and as backed by javascript offer for many great opportunities for extension at the cost of homogeneity and sometimes quality
- nudiustertian 9y agoi use the web client all the time and greatly prefer it to skype and even discord (which doesnt seem to like my audio drivers sometimes)
- ivan_ah 9y agoI've used this several times and worked great. The conversation was super HD. I think it even has phone-in support (at least for a few minutes...)
- ausjke 9y agowow, used it a few years back, time to check it out again.
- shams93 9y agoI looked at this for my project but we need to be able to do server side recording so we went with Janus gateway instead. It's a lean and mean c program that now supports plugins in rust. The one downside of jitsi is that it's a large java application. I can run Janus on a raspberry pi.
- yourapostasy 9y agoWhat plugins do you use with the Janus gateway?
- shams93 9y agoI'm using the archive video room and broadcast plugins, if not for the need for archives and broadcast we would have gone with jitsi because we are a Java house normally but because we need to have scalable archive recording Janus was the only fit besides rolling our own. It's been very light and stable. We also had good results with jitsi and would have u it but janus fit our requirements with broadcast and server side recording.
- paule89 9y agoI think it is an important point that it is still using java. Java once the hero of portability is in my opionion just the hero of zero days and slow programs. It also would not be the software to install on my grandmas pc because of the many important java updates which are needed. The automatic installation of a browser plugin i don't need and which makes it even more vulnerable. I think if Android would not be using Java it would have died years ago. On the other hand. Jitsi still great software. Open source and all.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago> I think if Android would not be using Java it would have died years ago. I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of enterprise software running on Java for decades now. Not only it's not going away, but the language itself and its ecosystem are evolving. Slowly, but in the domain of programming languages that are actually being widely used slow progress is a good thing.
- jjhawk 9y agoUsed this recently as a Skype replacement and had no complaints. Similarly rocket.chat is a good free and open source Slack alternative that is worth looking into if you wish to host it yourself.
- shmerl 9y agoIs it using sever multiplexing, or client side one (Muji)? It kind of never took off properly in XMPP clients.
- mrhigat9 9y agoWould be great to see it on fdroid. As it is, I can't use it without google play. I figured it was going to be closed up or slowly killed off after atlassian took over. Pleasantly surprised it's doing better. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/1290 https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/1290
- saghul 9y agoFWIW, the app does not depend on any Google Play services, so you could grab the apk from any of those mirrors and manually install it, and if you really want to, you could build it yourself, instructions are here: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/blob/master/android/README.md https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/blob/master/android/READ...
- BubuIIC 9y agoHere is the issue on F-Droid side: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/rfp/issues/73 https://gitlab.com/fdroid/rfp/issues/73 I recently buidling riot for F-Droid completely from source, which includes the jitsi-meet android library. So added the jitsi app should not be too complicated hopefully.
- doseofreality 9y agoThis is owned by Atlassian/Hipchat.
- gboudrias 9y agoDo people dislike them? I only know them for open-source projects.
- pfranz 9y agoI feel like many people have strong opinions about Atlassian. They are also a Java shop--which is something people also have strong opinions about. At a previous job they switched from a hodgepodge of systems and centralized onto Jira and Confluence and I have longed for it at the places I've worked since. I do realize the cost and maintenance (configuring and customizing it to get the most out of it) requires a lot of upfront attention. My most recent job uses them and although I haven't used either heavily yet, I find the gui way more confusing and feel like the pages are almost comically slow and heavy.
- azangru 9y agoRegarding the Java shop: here's a video of an Atlassian employee giving a talk on rxjs and redux-observable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk2bVBZhmcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk2bVBZhmcc None are specifically Atlassian's products, but it feels like their frontend is pretty normal (I would even say, advanced) and is quite dissociated from whatever Java they may be using on the backend. Also, they started rolling out a different (React-based) frontend for Jira several months ago. Can't say that particularly improved Jira's performance, but still... I am not sure viewing them as just a Java shop is fair anymore. And they also seem to be using graphQL now.
- pfranz 9y agoI may not have been clear, Java was only really relevant for hosting onsite. Other comments in this thread mention competitors using other server-side languages that can be served from a RaspberryPi. The only way it'd slow down the client is if your server was poorly tuned or underpowered. In my own experience, managing Java applications have their own set of skills. The client side bloat I've noticed are both in visual clutter and performance using the Atlassian hosted version...so I doubt it's related to Java (outside of maybe scaling issues?). I don't doubt they have a modern front-end. It feels like one of those hip, new, modern, chunky sites that take too long to load and I try not to revisit. I don't mean to knock on React or modern frameworks, they have their uses and fill needs, but the end result often isn't a pleasant experience. The version I remember using years ago was a bit slower than most static sites, but almost seemed boring and corporate in use (which is a compliment for something you rely on for your job).
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- erikb 9y agoThe question is not if it is a video conferencing software. We have billions of these. The question is if it can deliver a solution on the old problem of sucking Voip connections, especially with multiple participants.
- MaxLeiter 9y agoZoom works great for me in regards to supporting voip along with video chat.
- saghul 9y agoThanks for sharing! Some of us on the Jitsi team can answer some questions, if any. Ask away!
- speps 9y agoIs there an auto answer option that also works with video calls? Skype recently updated all their clients and removed that option which is really useful for monitoring someone you care for (eg. kids, older relatives, pets).
- saghul 9y agoI assume you talk about the Jitsi desktop client. TBH I don't know. I cannot find it on the UI either, sorry! Something you can do is use Jitsi Meet (the WebRTC client) and have the monitored device permanently connected to a meeting room (protected by a password if you are using our public infra) and join the call whenever you want to see the other side.
- spodek 9y agoI've been using jitsi for casual video conversations and love it. Thank you to the team. I also host a podcast. Can I use jitsi and record audio, separate tracks for each party?
- saghul 9y agoThanks for the kind words! > Can I use jitsi and record audio, separate tracks for each party? Nope, we don't have that capability, sorry.
- Scene_Cast2 9y agoIs there a desktop client that can VoIP with a mobile client? Or is it just browser-only? The windows jitsi desktop client I tried didn't seem to be meant for that.
- saghul 9y ago
- purpleidea 9y agoCool... Two questions: 1) How easy is it to host this in your own infra, and can you do so 100% without proprietary bits? 2) It seems there is a "call a phone feature" built-in. Neat. Does that have any restrictions or can I use it worldwide to call my friends in other countries. Thanks!
- saghul 9y ago1) Add our repo, apt-get install jitsi-meet and you're done! We have 0 proprietary bits. 2) That feature requires that you deploy a service of your own to facilitate this. At this time, meet.jit.si provides this for free for 2 minutes, but if you deploy the service to your own infra you'll need to deploy jigasi and configure a VoIP provider yourself. Cheers!
- black_puppydog 9y agoI love this project, and I really, really thought this would be the answer to give when people throw me a bewildered "what, you don't use skype?!" Sadly, even just clicking a link seems to be too far out of many people's comfort zone, which is something that I find it very hard to wrap my head around...
- anc84 9y agoI tried to love and promote Jitsi for a long time but the desktop client is just so darn 2000s Java-ish. Gradients, weird font-sizes, weird and few emoji. And no mobile clients... Jitsi Meet on the other hand is pure bliss. The website could use a single-line explanation about what it is though. :D
- shams93 9y agoJitsi meet is a really modern react/redux app
- motge 9y agoGNU Ring is also worth mentioning here as an alternative to Jitsi etc.: https://ring.cx/ https://ring.cx/ Pro: does not depend on Java Con: still buggy
- singularity2001 9y agohttps://meet.jit.si/test https://meet.jit.si/test
- singularity2001 9y agono text chat capabilities?? also video very poor compared to skype.
- me_bx 9y agoThere is a text chat, cf. the left-hand side of the screen ;)
- singularity2001 9y agoah, found it in hidden pannel, thx. bad UI?
- singularity2001 9y agoError occured: InvalidStateError: Peer connection is closed
- singularity2001 9y agosite not really adblocker friendly
- me_bx 9y agoEvery year, the Jitsi team gathers at FOSDEM, the Free and Open Source Developers European Meeting, and there are presentations about some technical aspects of the project. They are very lively, and do useful work. This year, there will be a talk about Speech-to-Text in Jitsi Meet > https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/jitsi/ https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/jitsi/ Happening in Brussels, Belgium on 3 & 4 February 2018 ;)
- mar77i 9y agoI heard about Jitsi at FOSDEM '14 the first time. I'll definitely be at the talk, too.
- Improvotter 9y agoSo unfortunate that FOSDEM is happening right at the end of finals in Belgium when a lot of students are on holiday like me. I've had to miss 2 FOSDEMs so far, 3rd coming up :(
- kasbah 9y agoIt's held on a university campus so it couldn't really be any other time.
- singularity2001 9y agoafter invoking those dozen commands at https://jitsi.org/downloads/ https://jitsi.org/downloads/ I still get >$ jitsi jitsi: command not found Oh they(I?) forgot one more `sudo apt-get install jitsi` Still getting Unresolved requirements: [[net.java.sip.communicator.argdelegation [135](R 135.0)] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=org.jitsi.util)] overall very poor experience.
- agroot12 9y agoThe page you link to <https://jitsi.org/downloads/> https://jitsi.org/downloads/> contains (mostly) instructions on how to install jitsi-meet on your server for a self-hosted WebRTC videoconferencing solution. This does not include the older 'jitsi' named softphone / voip client, meaning there will be no jitsi command that can be executed. Installation of jitsi-meet was straightforward for me, exactly as oulined on their page: - first, add their repository to your apt sources.list - then apt update && apt upgrade - then apt install jitsi-meet You should end up with a running web server hosting your own jitsi-meet instance. I've installed it with a letsencrypt cert... you have to convert it to pkcs#12 with openssl and move it to /etc/jitsi/videobridge/ .
- singularity2001 9y agoif any of the jitsi devs reads this: I JUST TRIED TO GET THE CLIENT. org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unable to resolve net.java.sip.communicator.shutdowntimeout org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unable to resolve net.java.sip.communicator.plugin.simpleaccreg …
- reimertz 9y agoIf you want to test Jitsi Meet with other fellow hn`rs. https://meet.jit.si/hn https://meet.jit.si/hn
- DoofusOfDeath 9y agoI work remotely, and I'm always on the lookout for a video chat system with fewer audio problems than Skype. Anyone know of a website that maintains a ranking of video chat services, in terms of audio quality?
- cjalmeida 9y agoI'm on the same boat. I find Google Hangouts very effective. So far, my experiences in Linux Chrome have been flawless.
- molszanski 9y agoIMO WebRTC based systems work best. My favorite is: appear.in
- sourceless 9y agoI liked appear.in for smaller meetings, but when we got to 4+ clients it was really struggling, and my team at the time switched to google meet instead. Otherwise I just use zoom.us
- rectang 9y agoAnybody here who can explain whether this limitation is specific to appear.in, or whether it's an inevitable consequence of WebRTC's design? Do the audio streams get mixed client-side under WebRTC? I use appear.in all the time for small meetings and love it. :)
- JepZ 9y agoSadly, it still has no OMEMO support (yet): https://omemo.top https://omemo.top
- baggachipz 9y agoThe site seems to have render errors on Firefox (57.0.4, osx 10.12.6): https://i.imgur.com/6oKH7Jw.png https://i.imgur.com/6oKH7Jw.png Anyone else see that?
- techwizrd 9y agoI saw that before the page had finished loading, but I don't see it now that the page has finished loading: https://i.imgur.com/zKmrqti.png https://i.imgur.com/zKmrqti.png
- baggachipz 9y agoAh, maybe some assets were timing out because it was getting the HN Hug.
- bitL 9y agoI thought Jitsi was dead since jit.si started retiring user accounts, rendering communication with my parents through it impossible. How do you use it these days?