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Determining authorized access is a process. Processes take time. Just because some people in uniforms show up at your door and demand access, doesn't mean tha

Determining authorized access is a process. Processes take time. Just because some people in uniforms show up at your door and demand access, doesn't mean that's the entire process. Even if they have a nice piece of paper from a court, it's just the start of the process. What if its just a ruse and they aren't really cops? What if they are cops, but the government is corrupt? What if the warrant was obtained in a faulty manner? This sort of measure allows the company to engage with the process in a less disadvantaged way.

protomyth 9y ago
> What if its just a ruse and they aren't really cops? Making a mistake in this regard gets you a obstruction of justice charge. Call a lawyers, but don't expect a judge not to take this badly when they have issued a warrant. > What if they are cops, but the government is corrupt? What if the warrant was obtained in a faulty manner? That's for the lawyers to deal with in court. Once again, obstruction of justice on a legally issued warrant is going to be bad news for you.
- notyourday 9y ago
  Uber is still operational in those countries and Uber execs dont have international arrest warrants of them. Based on that, it looks like Uber was correct in blocking access.
booleandilemma 9y ago
It also conveniently gives Uber more time to cover up whatever illegal activities they may have been up to. This is the whole point of why police conduct raids: ...to use the element of surprise to arrest targets that they believe may hide contraband or other evidence, resist arrest, be politically sensitive, or simply be elsewhere during the day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_raid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_raid
- wilburTheDog 9y ago
  Apparently Ripley doesn't wipe data from the computers. It just locks them. If the authorities have the legal right to seize them and compel Uber to give them access then all it bought Uber was some time to pursue legal remedies.
- dwild 9y ago
  How does it give them more time? Shouldn't the goal of seizure is to remove access to something to someone and remove him the capacity to alter evidence? If he refuses to comply or try to alter the evidence while complying, sure, they are guilty and I'm pretty sure there's a legal process for this situation, but at this point right now if they seized the data, they can no longer alter it.

protomyth 9y ago

> What if its just a ruse and they aren't really cops? Making a mistake in this regard gets you a obstruction of justice charge. Call a lawyers, but don't expect a judge not to take this badly when they have issued a warrant. > What if they are cops, but the government is corrupt? What if the warrant was obtained in a faulty manner? That's for the lawyers to deal with in court. Once again, obstruction of justice on a legally issued warrant is going to be bad news for you.

notyourday 9y ago
Uber is still operational in those countries and Uber execs dont have international arrest warrants of them. Based on that, it looks like Uber was correct in blocking access.

booleandilemma 9y ago

It also conveniently gives Uber more time to cover up whatever illegal activities they may have been up to. This is the whole point of why police conduct raids: ...to use the element of surprise to arrest targets that they believe may hide contraband or other evidence, resist arrest, be politically sensitive, or simply be elsewhere during the day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_raid https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_raid

wilburTheDog 9y ago
Apparently Ripley doesn't wipe data from the computers. It just locks them. If the authorities have the legal right to seize them and compel Uber to give them access then all it bought Uber was some time to pursue legal remedies.
dwild 9y ago
How does it give them more time? Shouldn't the goal of seizure is to remove access to something to someone and remove him the capacity to alter evidence? If he refuses to comply or try to alter the evidence while complying, sure, they are guilty and I'm pretty sure there's a legal process for this situation, but at this point right now if they seized the data, they can no longer alter it.