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Roommates are definitely an option, and I did that for a few years when first moving out here. But I'm pushing 30 now and totally over that lifestyle. It makes

Roommates are definitely an option, and I did that for a few years when first moving out here. But I'm pushing 30 now and totally over that lifestyle. It makes me sad to realize this is probably the only realistic option for sticking around long term though.

xor1 9y ago
Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC.
- aphextron 9y ago
  >Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC. Agreed, but I think it's weird that that isn't weird. Our parents' generation were able to buy a home, save for retirement, and raise a family on one person's income. Now we sign over half our monthly income to a landlord, and spend the rest on Avocado Toast.
  - hsitz 9y ago
    My generation is probably the same as your parents, and even then there certainly weren't many one-income homes doing those things in NYC, SF, or LA. Also, I would say that this generation has gotten used to larger homes and more luxury (e.g., lots of bathrooms). These things simply weren't as normal thirty years ago. (It's the same with cars, which are all bigger and have more luxuries than cars of thirty years ago. Just compare a current Honda Civic with a Civic of 1987.) The sort of lifestyle you describe is still easily available to two-income families, at least, (maybe one-and-a-half) in most mid-sized cities even in many larger cities. Those cities are mostly great for raising a family. For a single person, often not so much.
  - Kalium 9y ago
    So I hear you want to talk about zoning...
  - oagboghi2 9y ago
    You can easily do that, if you do it in one of those other states you called, what was the term, "hellholes"? The fucking arrogance
LearnerHerzog 9y ago
roommates are normal at any age including 40s and 50s
- someguydave 9y ago
  Especially if you are poor. People making $150k/yr in the bay area are actually pretty poor, compared to the cost of living.
- TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  At that age peoples' roommates are usually their spouse and their children. If they need to have roommates in addition to those, that is a big problem because with current trends it won't take much discouragement from having children to result in a declining population.

xor1 9y ago

Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC.

aphextron 9y ago
>Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC. Agreed, but I think it's weird that that isn't weird. Our parents' generation were able to buy a home, save for retirement, and raise a family on one person's income. Now we sign over half our monthly income to a landlord, and spend the rest on Avocado Toast.
- hsitz 9y ago
  My generation is probably the same as your parents, and even then there certainly weren't many one-income homes doing those things in NYC, SF, or LA. Also, I would say that this generation has gotten used to larger homes and more luxury (e.g., lots of bathrooms). These things simply weren't as normal thirty years ago. (It's the same with cars, which are all bigger and have more luxuries than cars of thirty years ago. Just compare a current Honda Civic with a Civic of 1987.) The sort of lifestyle you describe is still easily available to two-income families, at least, (maybe one-and-a-half) in most mid-sized cities even in many larger cities. Those cities are mostly great for raising a family. For a single person, often not so much.
- Kalium 9y ago
  So I hear you want to talk about zoning...
- oagboghi2 9y ago
  You can easily do that, if you do it in one of those other states you called, what was the term, "hellholes"? The fucking arrogance

LearnerHerzog 9y ago

roommates are normal at any age including 40s and 50s

someguydave 9y ago
Especially if you are poor. People making $150k/yr in the bay area are actually pretty poor, compared to the cost of living.
TheCoelacanth 9y ago
At that age peoples' roommates are usually their spouse and their children. If they need to have roommates in addition to those, that is a big problem because with current trends it won't take much discouragement from having children to result in a declining population.