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This is a fantastic point. I count myself among those desperate youth fleeing the stagnation that exists in the rest of our country. I’ve been able to, as a hig

This is a fantastic point. I count myself among those desperate youth fleeing the stagnation that exists in the rest of our country. I’ve been able to, as a high school dropout, move here to California and teach myself enough skills to make more money than I could have remotely even imagined 5 years ago. I am homeless now though, drifting between motels because even though I have the money to pay for it, I simply cannot get someone to rent me a studio apartment within reasonable commuting distance to my east bay tech job. It’s miserable being unable to put down any roots here, to spend your days begging a landlord just to look at your application. But the thought of leaving and taking my shot at getting by anywhere else is terrifying. The rest of this country is slowly becoming either a racist red state hell hole, or a dead end pit of poverty and despair for anyone with ambition.

_zachs 9y ago
Let me get this straight, if you're not in California you're either in a racist, red state hell hole or a dead end pit of poverty and despair? Dropping out of high-school clearly did you wonders.
- newfoundglory 9y ago
  They said becoming, not is.
  - talmand 9y ago
    So this person is not yet a total elitist jerk, but almost is. Got it.
- nickthemagicman 9y ago
  He's correct. The rest of the country is pretty bleak for the poor.
hsitz 9y ago
Maybe you've been through all your options, so excuse me if I'm being unhelpful or ignorant. But have you tried looking for a roommate(s)? Potentially you wouldn't even need to be on a lease that way, and you might make some good social connections. Admittedly, I'm 50+ and not up on the scene for 20-somethings just starting out. But back when that was me I moved to NYC and the Village Voice (newspaper) was full of ads for roommates. That was how many young people expected to live, i.e., in small apartment shared with others. There's nothing wrong with that, it can even be fun; you're young, enjoy it. Isn't this still a common thing in high rent urban areas, the natural way of 20-something living?
- aphextron 9y ago
  Roommates are definitely an option, and I did that for a few years when first moving out here. But I'm pushing 30 now and totally over that lifestyle. It makes me sad to realize this is probably the only realistic option for sticking around long term though.
  - xor1 9y ago
    Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC.
    - aphextron 9y ago
      >Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC. Agreed, but I think it's weird that that isn't weird. Our parents' generation were able to buy a home, save for retirement, and raise a family on one person's income. Now we sign over half our monthly income to a landlord, and spend the rest on Avocado Toast.
      - hsitz 9y ago
        My generation is probably the same as your parents, and even then there certainly weren't many one-income homes doing those things in NYC, SF, or LA. Also, I would say that this generation has gotten used to larger homes and more luxury (e.g., lots of bathrooms). These things simply weren't as normal thirty years ago. (It's the same with cars, which are all bigger and have more luxuries than cars of thirty years ago. Just compare a current Honda Civic with a Civic of 1987.) The sort of lifestyle you describe is still easily available to two-income families, at least, (maybe one-and-a-half) in most mid-sized cities even in many larger cities. Those cities are mostly great for raising a family. For a single person, often not so much.
      - Kalium 9y ago
        So I hear you want to talk about zoning...
      - oagboghi2 9y ago
thousandautumns 9y ago
> The rest of this country is slowly becoming either a racist red state hell hole, or a dead end pit of poverty and despair for anyone with ambition. Not really, but it is an increasingly popular excuse for people trying to mentally justify the stupid decision to stick it out as a homeless person in California.

_zachs 9y ago

Let me get this straight, if you're not in California you're either in a racist, red state hell hole or a dead end pit of poverty and despair? Dropping out of high-school clearly did you wonders.

newfoundglory 9y ago
They said becoming, not is.
- talmand 9y ago
  So this person is not yet a total elitist jerk, but almost is. Got it.
nickthemagicman 9y ago
He's correct. The rest of the country is pretty bleak for the poor.

hsitz 9y ago

Maybe you've been through all your options, so excuse me if I'm being unhelpful or ignorant. But have you tried looking for a roommate(s)? Potentially you wouldn't even need to be on a lease that way, and you might make some good social connections. Admittedly, I'm 50+ and not up on the scene for 20-somethings just starting out. But back when that was me I moved to NYC and the Village Voice (newspaper) was full of ads for roommates. That was how many young people expected to live, i.e., in small apartment shared with others. There's nothing wrong with that, it can even be fun; you're young, enjoy it. Isn't this still a common thing in high rent urban areas, the natural way of 20-something living?

aphextron 9y ago
Roommates are definitely an option, and I did that for a few years when first moving out here. But I'm pushing 30 now and totally over that lifestyle. It makes me sad to realize this is probably the only realistic option for sticking around long term though.
- xor1 9y ago
  Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC.
  - aphextron 9y ago
    >Having roommates in your 30s isn't that weird in LA, SF, and NYC. Agreed, but I think it's weird that that isn't weird. Our parents' generation were able to buy a home, save for retirement, and raise a family on one person's income. Now we sign over half our monthly income to a landlord, and spend the rest on Avocado Toast.
    - hsitz 9y ago
      My generation is probably the same as your parents, and even then there certainly weren't many one-income homes doing those things in NYC, SF, or LA. Also, I would say that this generation has gotten used to larger homes and more luxury (e.g., lots of bathrooms). These things simply weren't as normal thirty years ago. (It's the same with cars, which are all bigger and have more luxuries than cars of thirty years ago. Just compare a current Honda Civic with a Civic of 1987.) The sort of lifestyle you describe is still easily available to two-income families, at least, (maybe one-and-a-half) in most mid-sized cities even in many larger cities. Those cities are mostly great for raising a family. For a single person, often not so much.
    - Kalium 9y ago
      So I hear you want to talk about zoning...
    - oagboghi2 9y ago

thousandautumns 9y ago

> The rest of this country is slowly becoming either a racist red state hell hole, or a dead end pit of poverty and despair for anyone with ambition. Not really, but it is an increasingly popular excuse for people trying to mentally justify the stupid decision to stick it out as a homeless person in California.