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Meth is actually really interesting. It's a very democratic drug in that it's really easy for the user to make it themselves. Pot is another one that theoretica

Meth is actually really interesting. It's a very democratic drug in that it's really easy for the user to make it themselves. Pot is another one that theoretically lets you grow it yourself, but it's significantly harder and requires a larger investment. From what I gather, as long as you manage to not blow yourself up, the shake and bake method requires very little supplies and tools to make meth. Edit: to be clear, I am not advocating that anyone use meth. It's a horrible drug that will fuck your life. I do however find its particular properties interesting in the abstract.

WalterSear 9y ago
> Pot is another one that theoretically lets you grow it yourself, but it's significantly harder and requires a larger investment. A bunch of seeds and a pot of compost? Speaking from experience, fwiw.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > A bunch of seeds and a pot of compost? ...and a location with proper sun. Outdoor-sun-grown weed... that brings back memories.
- IgorPartola 9y ago
  Not speaking from experience but I thought it requires heating lamps, knowledge of make vs female plants, different types, etc. I suppose in the states where it’s been decriminalized, you can grow it outdoors and not worry about some of that stuff, but that certainly seems like more work than tossing some Sudafed and whatever else in an empty can and shaking it a bunch. Again, not advocating anyone try meth. Do not try meth.
spraak 9y ago
I'm not sure what would be more fitting, but "democratic" seems like thewrong word here. I understand what you mean, though. The easiest drug to make yourself is probably alcohol e.g. people making their own in prison.
- IgorPartola 9y ago
  Alcohol actually seems kind of hard to make. I did some beer brewing and it’s a process. Fermentation takes a long time, contamination could make it super foul, etc. As far as the word choice, you are probably right. It’s probsbly better to say “most easily accessible to the DIY community” :)
  - spraak 9y ago
    I think it takes practice for sure, but in terms of necessary equipment and ingredients, it's the simplest. Any sugary water (fruit juice) is enough. And can be done in very small spaces, like in prison like I'd mentioned
    - lazerpants 9y ago
      Welch's juice (any kind) and baker's yeast in room temperature storage will yield 7-8% alcohol wine in a couple of days. Doesn't taste particularly good but it is very easy.
- paulddraper 9y ago
  Could be "accessible" or "egalitarian".

WalterSear 9y ago

> Pot is another one that theoretically lets you grow it yourself, but it's significantly harder and requires a larger investment. A bunch of seeds and a pot of compost? Speaking from experience, fwiw.

mschuster91 9y ago
> A bunch of seeds and a pot of compost? ...and a location with proper sun. Outdoor-sun-grown weed... that brings back memories.
IgorPartola 9y ago
Not speaking from experience but I thought it requires heating lamps, knowledge of make vs female plants, different types, etc. I suppose in the states where it’s been decriminalized, you can grow it outdoors and not worry about some of that stuff, but that certainly seems like more work than tossing some Sudafed and whatever else in an empty can and shaking it a bunch. Again, not advocating anyone try meth. Do not try meth.

spraak 9y ago

I'm not sure what would be more fitting, but "democratic" seems like thewrong word here. I understand what you mean, though. The easiest drug to make yourself is probably alcohol e.g. people making their own in prison.

IgorPartola 9y ago
Alcohol actually seems kind of hard to make. I did some beer brewing and it’s a process. Fermentation takes a long time, contamination could make it super foul, etc. As far as the word choice, you are probably right. It’s probsbly better to say “most easily accessible to the DIY community” :)
- spraak 9y ago
  I think it takes practice for sure, but in terms of necessary equipment and ingredients, it's the simplest. Any sugary water (fruit juice) is enough. And can be done in very small spaces, like in prison like I'd mentioned
  - lazerpants 9y ago
    Welch's juice (any kind) and baker's yeast in room temperature storage will yield 7-8% alcohol wine in a couple of days. Doesn't taste particularly good but it is very easy.
paulddraper 9y ago
Could be "accessible" or "egalitarian".