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> I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. I downvoted but just to answer your question: INFINITY. INFINITY LAZY is the goal.

> I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. I downvoted but just to answer your question: INFINITY. INFINITY LAZY is the goal. Absolutely zero milliseconds worth of mindless toils would be my ideal number in life. That is the spec.

letsgetphysITal 9y ago
My girlfriend just bought dimming lamps for the living room so we can adjust the light levels in the evening. She CAN NOT see the benefit of having wireless bulbs controlled by your phone for this purpose. Apparently this is "too lazy". TOO LAZY. IS THAT A THING?!
- coldtea 9y ago
  Yes it is. The scientific name is "diminishing returns". (And in physical life, if one overdoes it with laziness, they can get from obese to pressure ulcers)
  - letsgetphysITal 9y ago
    Right, sure, but we're talking in a thread about a machine which folds your clothes for you, or a house with two dishwashers so you can use them straight from one and put them into the other afterwards. I'm not advocating lying in a La-Z-Boy wearing a VR headset, eating nothing but Cheetos and Mountain Dew for 6 days straight. I'm talking about dimming all the lights in the room when you put on a film, or having them slowly brighten as you wake up in the morning. And as for diminishing returns, I would argue that it is not. With proper configuration you can automate the entire morning routine; Lights up with your alarm, off when you leave the house, on when you arrive home, off when you go to bed. Just minor conveniences that make life more pleasurable.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      >I'm talking about dimming all the lights in the room when you put on a film, or having them slowly brighten as you wake up in the morning. Yes. And while that is nice to have, it's by no means as useful as "automatic clothes folding". A dimmer takes like 5 seconds to dim when you put on a movie -- whereas clothes folding takes up to tens of minutes.
saiya-jin 9y ago
That is a lousy spec for real life. Since mindless toils in some form will always be part of our lives, it makes sense to optimize them reasonably, but have a mental setup of being at peace with some of it. Otherwise it's an uphill battle with you on losing side. Laziness is a crappy mental setup for long term relationships, for parenting, heck even for work (I get some brilliant engineering work comes from laziness but it's a bit different type, and applied only sporadically). In fact, some mindless work can be a sort of meditation.
therealdrag0 9y ago
Am I the only one who enjoys these mindless toils? I just listen to a podcast or audio book and relax. Domestic duties are great for this. It's almost mediation.

letsgetphysITal 9y ago

My girlfriend just bought dimming lamps for the living room so we can adjust the light levels in the evening. She CAN NOT see the benefit of having wireless bulbs controlled by your phone for this purpose. Apparently this is "too lazy". TOO LAZY. IS THAT A THING?!

coldtea 9y ago
Yes it is. The scientific name is "diminishing returns". (And in physical life, if one overdoes it with laziness, they can get from obese to pressure ulcers)
- letsgetphysITal 9y ago
  Right, sure, but we're talking in a thread about a machine which folds your clothes for you, or a house with two dishwashers so you can use them straight from one and put them into the other afterwards. I'm not advocating lying in a La-Z-Boy wearing a VR headset, eating nothing but Cheetos and Mountain Dew for 6 days straight. I'm talking about dimming all the lights in the room when you put on a film, or having them slowly brighten as you wake up in the morning. And as for diminishing returns, I would argue that it is not. With proper configuration you can automate the entire morning routine; Lights up with your alarm, off when you leave the house, on when you arrive home, off when you go to bed. Just minor conveniences that make life more pleasurable.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    >I'm talking about dimming all the lights in the room when you put on a film, or having them slowly brighten as you wake up in the morning. Yes. And while that is nice to have, it's by no means as useful as "automatic clothes folding". A dimmer takes like 5 seconds to dim when you put on a movie -- whereas clothes folding takes up to tens of minutes.

saiya-jin 9y ago

That is a lousy spec for real life. Since mindless toils in some form will always be part of our lives, it makes sense to optimize them reasonably, but have a mental setup of being at peace with some of it. Otherwise it's an uphill battle with you on losing side. Laziness is a crappy mental setup for long term relationships, for parenting, heck even for work (I get some brilliant engineering work comes from laziness but it's a bit different type, and applied only sporadically). In fact, some mindless work can be a sort of meditation.

therealdrag0 9y ago

Am I the only one who enjoys these mindless toils? I just listen to a podcast or audio book and relax. Domestic duties are great for this. It's almost mediation.