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Need surgery? Here are the prices: https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing/ https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing/

by SQL2219 9y ago

maxxxxx 9y ago
A price list like this should be mandatory for all doctors.
- killjoywashere 9y ago
  Should software developers and lawyers also have upfront pricelists for all services? I will gladly develop a cure for cancer, for the low, low price of $20B.
  - maxxxxx 9y ago
    When I hire a software developer or a lawyer I get an upfront price list. Would you hire a lawyer that either would not give you any price or told you "it costs between 2000 and 60000 depending on your insurance and some other factors we won't tell you"?
    - killjoywashere 9y ago
      The difference is law, software, car repair, home remodels, etc, are all man-made systems. Medicine is dealing with a system that I think we can all agree man did not make.
      - maxxxxx 9y ago
        A hospital is a very man made system and most tools they use are man made too. Most procedures are pretty standard too. There is no reason that they can't publish numbers other than that it's beneficial to them to keep them secret. Insurances have these numbers too but they don't want to publish them either. Everybody knows the pricing, the only participant being kept in the dark is the customer, aka patient who eventually has to pay.
  - gedy 9y ago
    Software folks mostly do: "I will do mgmt's random projects and requests for $xxxxxx a year."
    - killjoywashere 9y ago
      Doctors mostly work on a similar principle: "I will take whatever comes through that door and then fill out the billing the hospital requests, which will be further worked out by the hospital, and hopefully I get paid after a month or so."
cantrip 9y ago
Article says: ..that price would include everything from airfare to the organization's only facility.. Their own pricing disclaimer says otherwise: Lodging and travel expenses are not included in the price of the procedures. There seems to be a huge host of pricing disclaimers for every procedure, such as pre-screening and MRIs not included, etc. thus making the article's claim that "the all-inclusive price for every operation is listed on the website" to be false.
- conanbatt 9y ago
  Its pretty ridiculous to have a single fee that includes airfare, doctor's are not travel agents...
everybodyknows 9y ago
From the web site: "Expenses or fees resulting from complications subsequent to the completion of the surgery and discharge from the facility are also not included." https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing-disclaimer/ https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing-disclaimer/ Complications e.g. infection can run up expenses almost without limit. And you're likely to be in no condition to get up and take your business elsewhere.

Need surgery? Here are the prices: https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing/ https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing/

maxxxxx 9y ago

A price list like this should be mandatory for all doctors.

killjoywashere 9y ago
Should software developers and lawyers also have upfront pricelists for all services? I will gladly develop a cure for cancer, for the low, low price of $20B.
- maxxxxx 9y ago
  When I hire a software developer or a lawyer I get an upfront price list. Would you hire a lawyer that either would not give you any price or told you "it costs between 2000 and 60000 depending on your insurance and some other factors we won't tell you"?
  - killjoywashere 9y ago
    The difference is law, software, car repair, home remodels, etc, are all man-made systems. Medicine is dealing with a system that I think we can all agree man did not make.
    - maxxxxx 9y ago
      A hospital is a very man made system and most tools they use are man made too. Most procedures are pretty standard too. There is no reason that they can't publish numbers other than that it's beneficial to them to keep them secret. Insurances have these numbers too but they don't want to publish them either. Everybody knows the pricing, the only participant being kept in the dark is the customer, aka patient who eventually has to pay.
- gedy 9y ago
  Software folks mostly do: "I will do mgmt's random projects and requests for $xxxxxx a year."
  - killjoywashere 9y ago
    Doctors mostly work on a similar principle: "I will take whatever comes through that door and then fill out the billing the hospital requests, which will be further worked out by the hospital, and hopefully I get paid after a month or so."

cantrip 9y ago

Article says: ..that price would include everything from airfare to the organization's only facility.. Their own pricing disclaimer says otherwise: Lodging and travel expenses are not included in the price of the procedures. There seems to be a huge host of pricing disclaimers for every procedure, such as pre-screening and MRIs not included, etc. thus making the article's claim that "the all-inclusive price for every operation is listed on the website" to be false.

conanbatt 9y ago
Its pretty ridiculous to have a single fee that includes airfare, doctor's are not travel agents...

everybodyknows 9y ago

From the web site: "Expenses or fees resulting from complications subsequent to the completion of the surgery and discharge from the facility are also not included." https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing-disclaimer/ https://surgerycenterok.com/pricing-disclaimer/ Complications e.g. infection can run up expenses almost without limit. And you're likely to be in no condition to get up and take your business elsewhere.