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Context [0], for anyone interested. [0]: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-era-linux-pioneer-munich-confirms-switch-to-windows-10/ htt

Context [0], for anyone interested. [0]: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-era-linux-pioneer-munich-confirms-switch-to-windows-10/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-e...

kartan 9y ago
Thanks for the link. "Those supporting the move to Microsoft Office say staff using LibreOffice find it difficult to swap documents with external organizations, due to incompatibilities with Microsoft Office" This happens all around the industry. Once you are locked in there is no easy way to change. This renders the capitalist concept of competition obsolete. Everything becomes a monopoly. Intel, Nvidia, Facebook, Microsoft, Google... they amount of 90% of the market on their products. What was 20 years ago a dynamic fast changing industry, that feared anti-monopoly actions from the goverment, has become a short list of big companies with tight ties with politicians. Such lack of diversity opens the risk that a vulnerability is going to send all our IT into chaos, as Intel issues have showed up. It also hampers innovation and contributes to a world with less opportunities for new entrepreneurs, that are more focused in created something to sell to a big company than a long term viable business. So Munich decision is part of the problem, but just an small one. I hope that it works better for Barcelona.
- cies 9y ago
  I thought Munnich's decision was also in part because MSFT would consider Munnich as a location for an office based on their decision on using their product to do their work. The old "we have to serve the corps (and their owners) or they leave" argument.
  - a254613e 9y ago
    Microsoft decided to move their HQ to Munich years before this. In fact the year the construction of MS HQ started Munich voted to start planning the move to LiMux.
    - deknos 9y ago
      ah, so.. why then did the new mayor the last year have the need to meet with microsoft and prepare the move? Do you have data for your claim?
      - a254613e 9y ago
        Sure - one of many articles from 2013 announcing the move: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/neue-deutschland-zentrale-microsoft-zieht-nach-muenchen-1.1813100 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/neue-deutschland-zentral...
yorwba 9y ago
HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13625508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13625508 mschuster91's first-hand experience: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13627452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13627452 Also, I read the underlying consultancy report, which did not appear to support the specific approach that was chosen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13643182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13643182

kartan 9y ago

Thanks for the link. "Those supporting the move to Microsoft Office say staff using LibreOffice find it difficult to swap documents with external organizations, due to incompatibilities with Microsoft Office" This happens all around the industry. Once you are locked in there is no easy way to change. This renders the capitalist concept of competition obsolete. Everything becomes a monopoly. Intel, Nvidia, Facebook, Microsoft, Google... they amount of 90% of the market on their products. What was 20 years ago a dynamic fast changing industry, that feared anti-monopoly actions from the goverment, has become a short list of big companies with tight ties with politicians. Such lack of diversity opens the risk that a vulnerability is going to send all our IT into chaos, as Intel issues have showed up. It also hampers innovation and contributes to a world with less opportunities for new entrepreneurs, that are more focused in created something to sell to a big company than a long term viable business. So Munich decision is part of the problem, but just an small one. I hope that it works better for Barcelona.

cies 9y ago
I thought Munnich's decision was also in part because MSFT would consider Munnich as a location for an office based on their decision on using their product to do their work. The old "we have to serve the corps (and their owners) or they leave" argument.
- a254613e 9y ago
  Microsoft decided to move their HQ to Munich years before this. In fact the year the construction of MS HQ started Munich voted to start planning the move to LiMux.
  - deknos 9y ago
    ah, so.. why then did the new mayor the last year have the need to meet with microsoft and prepare the move? Do you have data for your claim?
    - a254613e 9y ago
      Sure - one of many articles from 2013 announcing the move: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/neue-deutschland-zentrale-microsoft-zieht-nach-muenchen-1.1813100 http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/neue-deutschland-zentral...

yorwba 9y ago

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13625508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13625508 mschuster91's first-hand experience: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13627452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13627452 Also, I read the underlying consultancy report, which did not appear to support the specific approach that was chosen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13643182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13643182