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Nerds To Valleywag: Stay Off Our Site!

10 points by jmorin007 19y ago

wumi 19y ago
is that supposed to be a news article? and did they miss this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160896 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160896 ?
allenbrunson 19y ago
"Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out." ... holy cow, that's a great reason to wade through dozens of sensationalistic fluff pieces! looks like hacker news is well on its way to being as misunderstood by the tech press as apple has always been.
- jeroen 19y ago
  If they do write something interesting, then someone here can write a blogpost about it and link that. "Plus, we like the guys! In fact, we'll be hanging out with Wag-In-Chief Owen Thomas and his underling Nicholas Carlson in a few hours at Nowhere Bar near Union Square." Somehow I feel that that might be the primary motivation for this article.
veritas 19y ago
"Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out." Because in the off chance that Valleywag writes this informative and insightful article, we won't have access to it through any other source. It's not like we have access to a medium that enables efficient propagation of information.
wumi 19y ago
does anyone else get the feeling in that all these back&forth articles with TC, Valleywag, SAI and the like putting mirrors facing each other ...
- pg 19y ago
  yes
- SwellJoe 19y ago
  To be fair, we also spend a lot of time admiring each others shiny brilliance here at News.YC.
  - wumi 19y ago
    What I was reffering to, is a topic being posted on YC (say, should Valleywag be banned ...) and then it is linked to by both Techcrunch and SAI, and then that article written about the original post (say, should Valley wag be banned ...) is posted back on news.yc Remember opposite day?
    - SwellJoe 19y ago
      "Remember opposite day?" No. But I see, now. I think.
icky 19y ago
> We vote no. Banning a specific outlet's stories from a news aggregator is a losing idea; it only lowers the value of the index. Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out. The article misses the point entirely: news.yc's value is not in being an index, or aggregator of news items. Its value comes from the intelligent discussion of said items, and in having a smart community of similarly-interested people to bounce ideas off of.
sant0sk1 19y ago
Next poll: Should HN ban Alley Insider stories...
craig-faber 19y ago
"Nerds to Valleywag ..." Mmm, maybe technology news sites and reporters who refer to people who create it with contempt are not to be trusted.
redorb 19y ago
did we take the link bait? ... next head line from valley insider - "nerds tricked by seo tactics" :/
gruseom 19y ago
Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing Sooner or later the noise will include a signal? That's an argument for banning them.
nreece 19y ago
>> Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out. In my opinion, if the news is really worthwhile, it will come to the readers regardless. The news will still travel through one channel or the other, but yes, the readers may just miss out on an opinon (Valleywag's).

10 points by jmorin007 19y ago

wumi 19y ago

is that supposed to be a news article? and did they miss this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160896 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160896 ?

allenbrunson 19y ago

"Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out." ... holy cow, that's a great reason to wade through dozens of sensationalistic fluff pieces! looks like hacker news is well on its way to being as misunderstood by the tech press as apple has always been.

jeroen 19y ago
If they do write something interesting, then someone here can write a blogpost about it and link that. "Plus, we like the guys! In fact, we'll be hanging out with Wag-In-Chief Owen Thomas and his underling Nicholas Carlson in a few hours at Nowhere Bar near Union Square." Somehow I feel that that might be the primary motivation for this article.

veritas 19y ago

"Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out." Because in the off chance that Valleywag writes this informative and insightful article, we won't have access to it through any other source. It's not like we have access to a medium that enables efficient propagation of information.

wumi 19y ago

does anyone else get the feeling in that all these back&forth articles with TC, Valleywag, SAI and the like putting mirrors facing each other ...

pg 19y ago
yes
SwellJoe 19y ago
To be fair, we also spend a lot of time admiring each others shiny brilliance here at News.YC.
- wumi 19y ago
  What I was reffering to, is a topic being posted on YC (say, should Valleywag be banned ...) and then it is linked to by both Techcrunch and SAI, and then that article written about the original post (say, should Valley wag be banned ...) is posted back on news.yc Remember opposite day?
  - SwellJoe 19y ago
    "Remember opposite day?" No. But I see, now. I think.

icky 19y ago

> We vote no. Banning a specific outlet's stories from a news aggregator is a losing idea; it only lowers the value of the index. Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out. The article misses the point entirely: news.yc's value is not in being an index, or aggregator of news items. Its value comes from the intelligent discussion of said items, and in having a smart community of similarly-interested people to bounce ideas off of.

sant0sk1 19y ago

Next poll: Should HN ban Alley Insider stories...

craig-faber 19y ago

"Nerds to Valleywag ..." Mmm, maybe technology news sites and reporters who refer to people who create it with contempt are not to be trusted.

redorb 19y ago

did we take the link bait? ... next head line from valley insider - "nerds tricked by seo tactics" :/

gruseom 19y ago

Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing Sooner or later the noise will include a signal? That's an argument for banning them.

nreece 19y ago

>> Sooner or later Valleywag will write something particularly informative or amusing and Hacker News readers will miss out. In my opinion, if the news is really worthwhile, it will come to the readers regardless. The news will still travel through one channel or the other, but yes, the readers may just miss out on an opinon (Valleywag's).