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Puppies start walking earlier than babies. Great. The next question should be: so what? And that's what this article fails to deliver on.

gsich 9y ago
Yes, but also relative? A dog has somewhat 15-20 years of lifetime.
rubatuga 9y ago
It actually does show something interesting. Self recognition is a complex activity that isn’t dictated through a simple instinct. That means dolphins are developing their frontal lobe faster than humans. Puppies walking is an instinct, and isn’t necessarily a complex development
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > Self recognition is a complex activity that isn’t dictated through a simple instinct Source? If anything, this finding increases the odds that self-recognition might be a genetically primed (or even pre-programmed) neuronal circuit.
libraryatnight 9y ago
Did you read the article? It mentions why this is interesting, I mean it expects a little imagination and thought, but it's there. They mention MSR and what it means in regard to milestones in cognition and social development. I think what you mean is 'that's what this headline fails to deliver'
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tw1010 9y ago
Small bits of basic knowledge accumulates to great things over time. I doubt the researchers intended their paper to be as clickbait-y as the title of the NYT article sounds. But this individual contribution is probably not something worth putting too much emphasis on.
Arbalest 9y ago
To me this sounds like an adaption for responding to hostile situations at an early age. Suppose for a moment that we already have a longer (10 years to even reach puberty) development period for the exact reason of needing more processing capacity. It doesn't seem a stretch to me to think that being self aware later occurs because there is more groundwork development to occur for our complex reasoning.
- lithos 9y ago
  Kind of hard to hide a baby dolphin in some brush or a cave. Kind of hard to hole up in a cave as an oceanic mammal as well.
chrischen 9y ago
But puppies walk on all fours and babies can also crawl on all fours.
- dtparr 9y ago
  Puppies generally start walking about 3wks in, while babies are usually at least 6 months before crawling. So that closes the timeline somewhat, but there's still a large gap.
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gsich 9y ago

Yes, but also relative? A dog has somewhat 15-20 years of lifetime.

rubatuga 9y ago

It actually does show something interesting. Self recognition is a complex activity that isn’t dictated through a simple instinct. That means dolphins are developing their frontal lobe faster than humans. Puppies walking is an instinct, and isn’t necessarily a complex development

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> Self recognition is a complex activity that isn’t dictated through a simple instinct Source? If anything, this finding increases the odds that self-recognition might be a genetically primed (or even pre-programmed) neuronal circuit.

libraryatnight 9y ago

Did you read the article? It mentions why this is interesting, I mean it expects a little imagination and thought, but it's there. They mention MSR and what it means in regard to milestones in cognition and social development. I think what you mean is 'that's what this headline fails to deliver'

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tw1010 9y ago

Small bits of basic knowledge accumulates to great things over time. I doubt the researchers intended their paper to be as clickbait-y as the title of the NYT article sounds. But this individual contribution is probably not something worth putting too much emphasis on.

Arbalest 9y ago

To me this sounds like an adaption for responding to hostile situations at an early age. Suppose for a moment that we already have a longer (10 years to even reach puberty) development period for the exact reason of needing more processing capacity. It doesn't seem a stretch to me to think that being self aware later occurs because there is more groundwork development to occur for our complex reasoning.

lithos 9y ago
Kind of hard to hide a baby dolphin in some brush or a cave. Kind of hard to hole up in a cave as an oceanic mammal as well.

chrischen 9y ago

But puppies walk on all fours and babies can also crawl on all fours.

dtparr 9y ago
Puppies generally start walking about 3wks in, while babies are usually at least 6 months before crawling. So that closes the timeline somewhat, but there's still a large gap.

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