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Well what keeps your country from uplifting itself? My own country is one of the safest, wealthiest and politically stable on the planet but just a hundred yea

by Feniks 9y ago

Well what keeps your country from uplifting itself? My own country is one of the safest, wealthiest and politically stable on the planet but just a hundred years ago there were slums with child prostitution and cholera. As recent as the 1950s there were people LITERALLY living in holes under the ground.

dang 9y ago
This comment crosses into a nationalistic swipe, which is not allowed here, so please don't do it again.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  Why on Earth are you saying this? What the OP says is that their country was very poor and now it's now thriving. I was just about to ask what advice he could give to the grandparent when I read your comment and it made me speechless. What do you mean by "nationalistic"? I really, completely have no clue whatsoever what you mean. Maybe you wanted to use a different word?
  - dang 9y ago
    What keeps your country from doing admirable X so that it can be more like mine is a loaded, patronizing question. It's also ahistorical and therefore unsubstantive, as if one simply chooses to make things better and then they are. That argument is disrespectful to make about another person, let alone a whole country. Also, to my ear, prefixing the whole comment with "well" is a trivializing gesture, as if to say: "well, what's the matter with you? Pull yourself together and you could be more like me." I realize the comment didn't land with you that way, but I can guarantee you that it would with others, and that is how we get nationalistic flamewars. Moreover, the account has a pattern of making ideological comments. Such accounts are by far the most prone to flamewarring, so when we see signs of that we err on the side of replying.
    - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
      Oh I see. I just saw it as a honest question, encouraging discussion. If someone asks me "what keeps you from doing X?", when X is something I want to do, sometimes it's an a-ha moment for me, something actually very useful.
      - dang 9y ago
        Thanks for this! It's always something of a miracle to me when one of these loops gets closed with mutual understanding.
- golergka 9y ago
  > This comment crosses into a nationalistic swipe Can you back this statement up, please?

by Feniks 9y ago

dang 9y ago

This comment crosses into a nationalistic swipe, which is not allowed here, so please don't do it again.

dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
Why on Earth are you saying this? What the OP says is that their country was very poor and now it's now thriving. I was just about to ask what advice he could give to the grandparent when I read your comment and it made me speechless. What do you mean by "nationalistic"? I really, completely have no clue whatsoever what you mean. Maybe you wanted to use a different word?
- dang 9y ago
  What keeps your country from doing admirable X so that it can be more like mine is a loaded, patronizing question. It's also ahistorical and therefore unsubstantive, as if one simply chooses to make things better and then they are. That argument is disrespectful to make about another person, let alone a whole country. Also, to my ear, prefixing the whole comment with "well" is a trivializing gesture, as if to say: "well, what's the matter with you? Pull yourself together and you could be more like me." I realize the comment didn't land with you that way, but I can guarantee you that it would with others, and that is how we get nationalistic flamewars. Moreover, the account has a pattern of making ideological comments. Such accounts are by far the most prone to flamewarring, so when we see signs of that we err on the side of replying.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
    Oh I see. I just saw it as a honest question, encouraging discussion. If someone asks me "what keeps you from doing X?", when X is something I want to do, sometimes it's an a-ha moment for me, something actually very useful.
    - dang 9y ago
      Thanks for this! It's always something of a miracle to me when one of these loops gets closed with mutual understanding.
golergka 9y ago
> This comment crosses into a nationalistic swipe Can you back this statement up, please?