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I don't think it's as bad as you think. Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256 https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/95226541

by 0xdada 9y ago

I don't think it's as bad as you think. Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256 https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256. If shit hits the fan and you end up surviving, your help in the aftermath can be crucial.

matte_black 9y ago
What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?
- cloudwalking 9y ago
  Those skills which led you to master programming will enable you solve countless problems the apocalypse will bring.
  - Swizec 9y ago
    So problem solving? That does seem pretty useful, yep. Management skills could be crucial too. But there’s prob gonna be people around who are better at it. Hopefully survival in the post apocalypse doesn’t hinge on time estimates. Then we’re all doomed.
    - bonesss 9y ago
      > Hopefully survival in the post apocalypse doesn’t hinge on time estimates. Don't worry, we're implementing Survival KANBAN. Challenges and allocations will happen naturally on a board, while management tracks concurrent Survival In Progress to make sure we're not creating more survivors than we can handle.
- pault 9y ago
  I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.
  - booleandilemma 9y ago
    For most developers there is no overlap with what they know about software and the things listed above.
    - pault 9y ago
      The best time to start learning electrical engineering was 10 years ago. The second best time is today! ;)
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        Also survival skills and amateur radio skills.
    - matte_black 9y ago
      I don’t know, if any of those things can expose an API or provide some kind of IoT interface I could see backend skills being very useful. I figure if most data centers are targeted and destroyed people will probably have to host servers on their own local machines, which at least requires a DevOps person in each community.
    - pkaye 9y ago
      Hence the stew pot ;)
      - booleandilemma 9y ago
        He edited that in later :)
  - indemnity 9y ago
    I’m a backend developer and I’m still useless with those things :)
  - matte_black 9y ago
    If there’s no need for front end devs anymore does that mean apps will be designed in very utilitarian, command line like interfaces with no frills? That might actually be pleasant.
- mter 9y ago
  We make enough money to live in the suburbs instead of the city and can afford a house where we can store food, water, books (the dead tree kind), tools and firearms. If you put a machine/wood working shop in your garage + you do your own home repairs you can learn all kinds of useful skills.
- aqsalose 9y ago
  > What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world? At the moment of writing this, North Korea alone is not able to bring about the kind of total apocalypse people are thinking when they talk about "post-apocalyptic world". Assuming China joins in (thought I am unsure why they would, unless US strikes first), according the Wikipedia they have 260 warheads [1], which is enough to bring about a massive catastrophe but I am not convinced that the result would be total collapse of civilization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_dest...
IIAOPSW 9y ago
If I survive, I'm a refugee, foreign national with minimal language skills, I'm likely in an active war zone and my nation is probably one of the belligerents. My chances don't look good.
- hateduser2 9y ago
  Better to take certain death over low odds? R u nuts?
- vilhelm_s 9y ago
  North Korea is estimated to have 10 - 20 bombs [1], and their bombs would have a similar yield to the two that were used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Presumably, only a fraction of the North Korean stockpile would be used against Japan (they would also want to attack targets in South Korea). This is much less than the American bombings of Japan in World War 2, when 60 Japanese cities were firebombed (see e.g. [2]). But even so, the total deaths in Japan in the entire war were something like 4% of the population. If there is a war now, most people living in Japan will survive. [1] https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/nuclear-notebook/ https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/nuclear-notebook/ [2] https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/10/national/deadly-wwii-u-s-firebombing-raids-on-japanese-cities-largely-ignored/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/10/national/deadly...
trumpsamerica 9y ago
I'd rather this be the actual submission!
microcolonel 9y ago
lcamtuf has also put together a more comprehensive guide to evaluating and preparing for disasters, which I find is pretty darn good. http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/prep/ http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/prep/
intrasight 9y ago
And if you end up not surviving, your help in the afterlife will be welcome.

by 0xdada 9y ago

matte_black 9y ago

What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?

cloudwalking 9y ago
Those skills which led you to master programming will enable you solve countless problems the apocalypse will bring.
- Swizec 9y ago
  So problem solving? That does seem pretty useful, yep. Management skills could be crucial too. But there’s prob gonna be people around who are better at it. Hopefully survival in the post apocalypse doesn’t hinge on time estimates. Then we’re all doomed.
  - bonesss 9y ago
    > Hopefully survival in the post apocalypse doesn’t hinge on time estimates. Don't worry, we're implementing Survival KANBAN. Challenges and allocations will happen naturally on a board, while management tracks concurrent Survival In Progress to make sure we're not creating more survivors than we can handle.
pault 9y ago
I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.
- booleandilemma 9y ago
  For most developers there is no overlap with what they know about software and the things listed above.
  - pault 9y ago
    The best time to start learning electrical engineering was 10 years ago. The second best time is today! ;)
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Also survival skills and amateur radio skills.
  - matte_black 9y ago
    I don’t know, if any of those things can expose an API or provide some kind of IoT interface I could see backend skills being very useful. I figure if most data centers are targeted and destroyed people will probably have to host servers on their own local machines, which at least requires a DevOps person in each community.
  - pkaye 9y ago
    Hence the stew pot ;)
    - booleandilemma 9y ago
      He edited that in later :)
- indemnity 9y ago
  I’m a backend developer and I’m still useless with those things :)
- matte_black 9y ago
  If there’s no need for front end devs anymore does that mean apps will be designed in very utilitarian, command line like interfaces with no frills? That might actually be pleasant.
mter 9y ago
We make enough money to live in the suburbs instead of the city and can afford a house where we can store food, water, books (the dead tree kind), tools and firearms. If you put a machine/wood working shop in your garage + you do your own home repairs you can learn all kinds of useful skills.
aqsalose 9y ago
> What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world? At the moment of writing this, North Korea alone is not able to bring about the kind of total apocalypse people are thinking when they talk about "post-apocalyptic world". Assuming China joins in (thought I am unsure why they would, unless US strikes first), according the Wikipedia they have 260 warheads [1], which is enough to bring about a massive catastrophe but I am not convinced that the result would be total collapse of civilization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_dest...

IIAOPSW 9y ago

If I survive, I'm a refugee, foreign national with minimal language skills, I'm likely in an active war zone and my nation is probably one of the belligerents. My chances don't look good.

hateduser2 9y ago
Better to take certain death over low odds? R u nuts?
vilhelm_s 9y ago
North Korea is estimated to have 10 - 20 bombs [1], and their bombs would have a similar yield to the two that were used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Presumably, only a fraction of the North Korean stockpile would be used against Japan (they would also want to attack targets in South Korea). This is much less than the American bombings of Japan in World War 2, when 60 Japanese cities were firebombed (see e.g. [2]). But even so, the total deaths in Japan in the entire war were something like 4% of the population. If there is a war now, most people living in Japan will survive. [1] https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/nuclear-notebook/ https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/nuclear-notebook/ [2] https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/10/national/deadly-wwii-u-s-firebombing-raids-on-japanese-cities-largely-ignored/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/10/national/deadly...

trumpsamerica 9y ago

I'd rather this be the actual submission!

microcolonel 9y ago

lcamtuf has also put together a more comprehensive guide to evaluating and preparing for disasters, which I find is pretty darn good. http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/prep/ http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/prep/

intrasight 9y ago

And if you end up not surviving, your help in the afterlife will be welcome.