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Mm, yes and no. It's one of those things where if you reveal you have them, you feel like less of a person. People look at you differently. Be honest: If you w
by sillysaurus3 9y ago
Mm, yes and no. It's one of those things where if you reveal you have them, you feel like less of a person. People look at you differently.
Be honest: If you were in a position of authority, would you place someone with known suicidal tendencies in a position of power? What if things went very badly? How about someone with outbursts of anger, or serious sleep issues that prevent them from showing up to work on time?
When people feel pressure to conceal their problems, the pressure builds.
Aaron had some political aspirations, and a felony conviction would've precluded him from running for certain offices. Maybe that, combined with his internal issues, may have made him feel like less of a person. I don't know. I just want people to feel okay with themselves, however they are.
Once people realize that it's genuinely ok to have issues, hopefully society will relax a bit.
Or maybe there is no solution, and people will eventually take their own lives for one reason or another. And that's ok too. We can remind them that it's not the only option, and give them some space to unwind.
That seems like the crux of it: People are so hung up on doing well or being a good person or accomplishing their careers, that their whole self-worth is tied up in it. When it goes badly, it's easy to take it out on yourself. But there's no reason to. The chips fall wherever they fall.
- jacquesm 9y ago> Aaron had some political aspirations, and a felony conviction would've precluded him from running for certain offices. Maybe that, combined with his internal issues, may have made him feel like less of a person. I don't know. If you don't know then don't speculate.
- chris_wot 9y agoI agree.
- sillysaurus3 9y agoHe felt something, near the end. Put yourself in his shoes. Speculation is all we can do, if we're serious about trying to prevent this in the future. Giving people an outlet is important. The people who reached out to me often felt cornered, for one reason or another. Isn't it reasonable to suppose Aaron felt the similarly? If people feel like they're allowed to open up about their issues, it can really do some good. But that won't happen by trying to hush people. Readers: If any of you are considering any extreme action, contact me first. I'll listen. And I won't judge you. I know at least one of you has had similar thoughts. So reach out instead.
- Nooseofaaron 9y agoThat is a straight up fucking lie. This community is so adorable.
- DanBC 9y ago> Speculation is all we can do, if we're serious about trying to prevent this in the future. No no, if you want to prevent suicide you should avoid specualting on what went on in a person's mind. Suicide is a complex phenomena, and it's wrong to boil it down to one or two things.
- sillysaurus3 9y agoFor what it's worth, I partly agree. It just seems important to try to help whatever is going on. Most people don't try, you know? It can be really hard for people who have stuff going on to find any kind of support. And you'd think it'd be the opposite: family, friends, counsellors. Yet for some reason, people tend to eschew them during dark times. There's something worth exploring there, and I want to help somehow. A decent example: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/7q9eu0/my_daughter_just_got_admitted_to_a_psych_unit_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/7q9eu0/my_... In that case, it was trauma that almost led to suicide. But it was intensely private and humiliating. Of course she wasn't going to talk to her father about it. If only there were a service for people in that situation to get real help, on demand. There are suicide hotlines, but many people are far more comfortable expressing themselves via keyboard.
- chris_wot 9y agoYou don’t want to talk about suicidal thoughts. If you do that, then you will get locked up and not treated like a person. In Australia, the medical profession who are meant to help people with suicidal thoughts are the very last people you should speak to. I speak from personal experience.
- sillysaurus3 9y agoThat's why I want to help. I want to be someone that people can speak to. That goes for you, too. If you ever find yourself in a dark place again, contact me. I'll listen.
- Nooseofaaron 9y agoFuck off cunt. Stop hindering curiosity even if it is speculation
- Fuckthisboard 9y agoYou are willing to hinder conversation because you simply don't know?
- 4everyesterday 9y agoThe potential consequence of being unfairly persecuted is that you can completely separate your perception of yourself and anyone else's. The individuals that did this to Aaron are the ones suffering from a mental condition. The transitory struggles of life and emotions are universal and fundamental to living. Systems that embolden constructs like federal prosecutors are what is systemically flawed. Not the individual. Carl Jung said something interesting about the importance of the ego: "It was only after the illness that I understood how important it is to affirm one’s own destiny. In this way we forge an ego that does not break down when incomprehensible things happen; an ego that endures, that endures the truth, and that is capable of coping with the world and with fate... Nothing is disturbed – neither inwardly nor outwardly, for one’s own continuity has withstood the current of life and of time.”
- chris_wot 9y agoAs someone who has had suicidal tendencies in the past, and suffered as a direct result, yeah - I would give Aaron positions of power and responsibility.