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An interesting Reddit comment described a chaotic traffic situation for 20 minutes (people running lights, wrong-side-of-the-road driving, extreme speed, etc.).

An interesting Reddit comment described a chaotic traffic situation for 20 minutes (people running lights, wrong-side-of-the-road driving, extreme speed, etc.). Human nature in these moments is very “Tragedy of the Commons” apparently.

smitherfield 9y ago
Link?
- leesalminen 9y ago
  Would also like to read this.
- FLUX-YOU 9y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_alert_about_ballistic_missile_sent_to/dsmp325/ https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_aler...
- makecheck 9y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_alert_about_ballistic_missile_sent_to/dsmp325/ https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_aler...
Houshalter 9y ago
It's good to see people react. There are lots of stories of people dying in disasters because they didn't take it seriously. E.g. sirens blaring for a tornado alert, and people are just continue mowing their lawns. Or people continue eating their meal when the building is on fire, who ended up dying.
- exabrial 9y ago
  Tornado alley lifer here... they're a different story. They process slowly (10mph-30mph), the vast majority of them in the USA will move SW to NE, they usually have a very narrow damage track (100yards), and are usually very visible on weather radar as bright wind sheer. My point being, if you can see a tornado coming, you'll have ample time to take shelter in a basement [or if you're in an unpopulated area, you can get out of the way]. Why people get killed by tornados "still" is usually insufficient shelter (homes without basements or safe rooms), quick touchdowns, them occurring at odd hours when people are sleeping, or the occasional goliath tornado with a massive damage track that's moving quickly, in the wrong direction.
  - knz 9y ago
    I've heard dozens of tornado sirens and watched people ignore them in the 10+ years I've lived in Minnesota. I've also experienced being caught in the middle of a tornado outbreak (30 in 90 minutes, a couple were over mile wide) while driving across southern Minnesota. We sheltered at a Walmart and were quite alarmed that no locals seemed to take it seriously, even when the roof partially lifted off and cars started getting tossed around in the parking lot. IIRC the State recently switched to more localized warnings (not county wide) due to people ignoring the sirens. I'm also pretty sure that "you can see tornadoes coming" is poor advice, especially since they often come at night or with significant rainfall.
- pixelcloud 9y ago
  And lots of those stories are from Hawaii! Many many people have died their due to tsunamis, etc. They take their warnings seriously (in the past they didnt have them for things like tsunamis)
joering2 9y ago
Just recently I spoke to my friends that literally are living in LaLa land. They are making fun of me prepping and saving dry food, water, stacking up on legal guns and munition. I took upon challenge last xmas to meetup with them and they brought my prepardness as one of laughing subjects. It really saddens me when they believe that when gloves of society are off, we all gonna be happy singing kumbaya and respecting rules that has been put in greatest part by bodies of virtual government. They laugh when I tell them the history proved the nicest kind of people turn into murders and cannibals when its their turn to die of starving.. or eat someone and survive. This example of maddnes on Hawain streets proves me I am right in my theory :(
- FragenAntworten 9y ago
  Perhaps they don't think the gloves of society will come off - that is, that no catastrophic event will occur which will affect their life/area, so that life will continue as normal for the foreseeable future. In that case, no preparations would be necessary.
- conspiracyies 9y ago
  Being prepared for an emergency isn’t a bad thing. Being a “prepper” is fucking conspiracy level bullshit. They shouldnt even be your friend. Nobody should be your friend, you’re a fucking moron.
- lhopki01 9y ago
  Why do you think your preparation will be enough? If things do go that bad then it'll be very few people that will survive because of just how much of our mechanised infrastructure is needed to feed us.
  - gumby 9y ago
    Now your friends know where to go to steal ammo and other supplies when the revolution comes. This sounds sarcastic but I don't mean it that way. True prepping is leaving (and maintaining!!) caches for adequate time in various locations (you don't know where you'll be when things go sideways, nor what routes will be available). How long are you preparing for? Days? Months? Years?

smitherfield 9y ago

Link?

leesalminen 9y ago
Would also like to read this.
FLUX-YOU 9y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_alert_about_ballistic_missile_sent_to/dsmp325/ https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_aler...
makecheck 9y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_alert_about_ballistic_missile_sent_to/dsmp325/ https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7q67a1/emergency_aler...

Houshalter 9y ago

It's good to see people react. There are lots of stories of people dying in disasters because they didn't take it seriously. E.g. sirens blaring for a tornado alert, and people are just continue mowing their lawns. Or people continue eating their meal when the building is on fire, who ended up dying.

exabrial 9y ago
Tornado alley lifer here... they're a different story. They process slowly (10mph-30mph), the vast majority of them in the USA will move SW to NE, they usually have a very narrow damage track (100yards), and are usually very visible on weather radar as bright wind sheer. My point being, if you can see a tornado coming, you'll have ample time to take shelter in a basement [or if you're in an unpopulated area, you can get out of the way]. Why people get killed by tornados "still" is usually insufficient shelter (homes without basements or safe rooms), quick touchdowns, them occurring at odd hours when people are sleeping, or the occasional goliath tornado with a massive damage track that's moving quickly, in the wrong direction.
- knz 9y ago
  I've heard dozens of tornado sirens and watched people ignore them in the 10+ years I've lived in Minnesota. I've also experienced being caught in the middle of a tornado outbreak (30 in 90 minutes, a couple were over mile wide) while driving across southern Minnesota. We sheltered at a Walmart and were quite alarmed that no locals seemed to take it seriously, even when the roof partially lifted off and cars started getting tossed around in the parking lot. IIRC the State recently switched to more localized warnings (not county wide) due to people ignoring the sirens. I'm also pretty sure that "you can see tornadoes coming" is poor advice, especially since they often come at night or with significant rainfall.
pixelcloud 9y ago
And lots of those stories are from Hawaii! Many many people have died their due to tsunamis, etc. They take their warnings seriously (in the past they didnt have them for things like tsunamis)

joering2 9y ago

Just recently I spoke to my friends that literally are living in LaLa land. They are making fun of me prepping and saving dry food, water, stacking up on legal guns and munition. I took upon challenge last xmas to meetup with them and they brought my prepardness as one of laughing subjects. It really saddens me when they believe that when gloves of society are off, we all gonna be happy singing kumbaya and respecting rules that has been put in greatest part by bodies of virtual government. They laugh when I tell them the history proved the nicest kind of people turn into murders and cannibals when its their turn to die of starving.. or eat someone and survive. This example of maddnes on Hawain streets proves me I am right in my theory :(

FragenAntworten 9y ago
Perhaps they don't think the gloves of society will come off - that is, that no catastrophic event will occur which will affect their life/area, so that life will continue as normal for the foreseeable future. In that case, no preparations would be necessary.
conspiracyies 9y ago
Being prepared for an emergency isn’t a bad thing. Being a “prepper” is fucking conspiracy level bullshit. They shouldnt even be your friend. Nobody should be your friend, you’re a fucking moron.
lhopki01 9y ago
Why do you think your preparation will be enough? If things do go that bad then it'll be very few people that will survive because of just how much of our mechanised infrastructure is needed to feed us.
- gumby 9y ago
  Now your friends know where to go to steal ammo and other supplies when the revolution comes. This sounds sarcastic but I don't mean it that way. True prepping is leaving (and maintaining!!) caches for adequate time in various locations (you don't know where you'll be when things go sideways, nor what routes will be available). How long are you preparing for? Days? Months? Years?