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I'm as non-Apple-fan as they get, but this is honestly why I really, REALLY admire Apple - they only announce products that are ready to ship, and steer clear o

I'm as non-Apple-fan as they get, but this is honestly why I really, REALLY admire Apple - they only announce products that are ready to ship, and steer clear of "We're working on this, stay prepared for our awesomeness to blow you out of the water! Coming soon to cinemas near you!"

jrockway 16y ago
Well yeah, the media does that for them for free.
StavrosK 16y ago
To be fair, that's easier to do when there's nothing else like whatever it is you're working on. People (me included) are waiting for Android tablets right now. There was nobody working for a tablet before the iPad, so Apple didn't have to say "we're working on this, don't buy the competitor's thing yet".
- nanairo 16y ago
  Wow! That's a pretty bias view! If you remember there were a lot of rumours of the iPad coming out. In part it was because of a lot of people, including many Wall Street guys, felt Apple HAD to compete with the netbook-mania by releasing their own netbook. Apple sticked to its gun then. It could have used such a line just as well: "No, netbook are crap compared to our awesome tablet that we're working right now: stay tuned". Did they? Nope. You even had Microsoft and others (remember the Techcrunch's tablet) being announced long before they were ready, and even then Apple didn't change its stance. I'm not saying that Apple is just a genius or something: it's probably as much arrogance as it is a passion to be different (and not just copy some other ideas). But to say that Apple didn't have to say anything, it's partial recollection.
  - StavrosK 16y ago
    There was no good tablet before Apple's, mainly because there was no good OS. PC OSes are a bad fit for tablets, so it has to be either iOS or Android. I'm very surprised Google is going with ChromeOS on its tablet, I hope they make it easy to install Android.
    - nanairo 16y ago
      In hindsight I agree. But back in those days: a) most people didn't believe that, and b) the Linux community was developing distributions for tablets. And anyway the famous (in those days) techcrunch's tablet was not going to use any PC OS. Anyway, the only point I was replying to was that Apple did have a lot of pressure back in those days to come out with their netbook or with something that covered the same niche, and some people even suggested that Apple should have lost in the tablet market because there were already a few offers around or soon to be. In other words I was not discussion what made the iPad a success (if it deserved it, or any of those more hot topics). Simply that it's not true that Apple was not under pressure to present _something_, which is the point the OP was saying.

jrockway 16y ago

Well yeah, the media does that for them for free.

StavrosK 16y ago

To be fair, that's easier to do when there's nothing else like whatever it is you're working on. People (me included) are waiting for Android tablets right now. There was nobody working for a tablet before the iPad, so Apple didn't have to say "we're working on this, don't buy the competitor's thing yet".

nanairo 16y ago
Wow! That's a pretty bias view! If you remember there were a lot of rumours of the iPad coming out. In part it was because of a lot of people, including many Wall Street guys, felt Apple HAD to compete with the netbook-mania by releasing their own netbook. Apple sticked to its gun then. It could have used such a line just as well: "No, netbook are crap compared to our awesome tablet that we're working right now: stay tuned". Did they? Nope. You even had Microsoft and others (remember the Techcrunch's tablet) being announced long before they were ready, and even then Apple didn't change its stance. I'm not saying that Apple is just a genius or something: it's probably as much arrogance as it is a passion to be different (and not just copy some other ideas). But to say that Apple didn't have to say anything, it's partial recollection.
- StavrosK 16y ago
  There was no good tablet before Apple's, mainly because there was no good OS. PC OSes are a bad fit for tablets, so it has to be either iOS or Android. I'm very surprised Google is going with ChromeOS on its tablet, I hope they make it easy to install Android.
  - nanairo 16y ago
    In hindsight I agree. But back in those days: a) most people didn't believe that, and b) the Linux community was developing distributions for tablets. And anyway the famous (in those days) techcrunch's tablet was not going to use any PC OS. Anyway, the only point I was replying to was that Apple did have a lot of pressure back in those days to come out with their netbook or with something that covered the same niche, and some people even suggested that Apple should have lost in the tablet market because there were already a few offers around or soon to be. In other words I was not discussion what made the iPad a success (if it deserved it, or any of those more hot topics). Simply that it's not true that Apple was not under pressure to present _something_, which is the point the OP was saying.