Again, I think you're being uncharitable and attacking straw men. One doesn't need to "acknowledge... each time they want to talk" (whether it's smokers, needl

Again, I think you're being uncharitable and attacking straw men. One doesn't need to "acknowledge... each time they want to talk" (whether it's smokers, needle-sharers, parents, or whatever). Rather, it's just a matter of how one phrases things, e.g. avoiding a sense of entitlement or being condecending. > And I don't even think that having children is like sharing needles. I think it it, in precisely the sense that I mentioned it: that it's avoidable, and may have severe negative consequences. No more, no less. > There we are getting into category where you imply that having children is somehow morally bad Not at all. I wasn't passing moral judgement, I was giving examples of situations where someone complaining about problems they're suffering may have to choose their language carefully, to avoid being judged harshly in a social context. No more, no less. > or is it having children while not being 100% happy about every aspect of child raising? Again, that's a straw man.