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I think that most of the uproar is about people interpreting this agreement as a direct business deal and Google will get it's traffic sped up and that they are

by yanw 16y ago

I think that most of the uproar is about people interpreting this agreement as a direct business deal and Google will get it's traffic sped up and that they are somehow legislating and neither is true. Also many forget that Verizon is the company owning the pipes and spectrum, not Google, and as much as it's unpleasant to think about, NN won't be put into law without teleco input.

ryanhuff 16y ago
Do you acknowledge that Google and Verizon now have an interesting business relationship, where the success of one party in the mobile space directly influences the other? Vested interests do drive people and companies to behave differently. In this case, its reasonable to wonder if Google has changed from champion of NN to a company that sees its next great revenue pool (mobile) forming before its eyes.
- yanw 16y ago
  I suppose many factors were considered including the fact that the ruling against the FCC did derail the neutrality cause, and who's to say that if the teleco lobbyists are through with any suggested bill, things wouldn't be much worse, so they managed to agree on a couple of positive point and concede a couple of other points get things going.
- ZeroGravitas 16y ago
  You appear to be hinting at the "android" argument that I've never seen spelled out properly. Care to explain why this makes such a big difference compared with say HQ Youtube carrying TV shows to homes supplied with internet by Verizon? Because to my euro eyes it seems like US fanboys cheering on Apple, iPhones and AT&T, which makes Google, Android and Verizon the "baddies" in this tag team match. And yet you get Android phones on all carriers, including AT&T, and the iPhone seems to be coming to Verizon (and I assume all other carriers once exclusivity is broken, like in many other countries) so these "teams" are basically fiction. So where's the real beef here?

by yanw 16y ago

ryanhuff 16y ago

Do you acknowledge that Google and Verizon now have an interesting business relationship, where the success of one party in the mobile space directly influences the other? Vested interests do drive people and companies to behave differently. In this case, its reasonable to wonder if Google has changed from champion of NN to a company that sees its next great revenue pool (mobile) forming before its eyes.

yanw 16y ago
I suppose many factors were considered including the fact that the ruling against the FCC did derail the neutrality cause, and who's to say that if the teleco lobbyists are through with any suggested bill, things wouldn't be much worse, so they managed to agree on a couple of positive point and concede a couple of other points get things going.
ZeroGravitas 16y ago
You appear to be hinting at the "android" argument that I've never seen spelled out properly. Care to explain why this makes such a big difference compared with say HQ Youtube carrying TV shows to homes supplied with internet by Verizon? Because to my euro eyes it seems like US fanboys cheering on Apple, iPhones and AT&T, which makes Google, Android and Verizon the "baddies" in this tag team match. And yet you get Android phones on all carriers, including AT&T, and the iPhone seems to be coming to Verizon (and I assume all other carriers once exclusivity is broken, like in many other countries) so these "teams" are basically fiction. So where's the real beef here?