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This reminds me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 which in my opinion is relevant to the subject. T

This reminds me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 which in my opinion is relevant to the subject. Today's parents spend too much time with kids, too many helicopter parents and all that stuff, so it's the parents who overreact, overdo and exhaust themselves. Comment from throwaway2016a: > "We got no sleep last night, she woke up at 2 AM and wouldn't go back to bed." > The fact is, having a child is the biggest life commitment you will ever make and if you and your significant other are not prepared, you're in for a bad time. My grandpa had 10 siblings and from his stories I can tell that if he as a kid woke up at 2 AM and woke his parents (who worked their asses off from dawn till dusk to support the family) up for no good reason - he'd be the one to have a bad time and he learned that at a very young age. He did grow up to be a stand up guy who never complains about anything and the lack of all the rights, freedoms and attention that today's kids get didn't seem to get in the way of that.

thriftwy 9y ago
I think that throwaway2016a was speaking about an infant under year. Would you be hitting a newborn child? I bet you won't. What outcome would you ever expect here?
- eanzenberg 9y ago
  Not about hitting at all. It's about sleep training and crying-it-out, both of which can be done for infants > 6months old (we've done it with our boy).
DenisM 9y ago
> never complains about anything While convenient for others, this is not quite healthy. It's possible to traumatize a child into quiet and obedience, but times have changed and we don't approve of that anymore.
- neverminder 9y ago
  I believe he would laugh and say he doesn't have time to be traumatized. He's 86 and still going strong, always working on something, the man is like a shark (certain species of sharks die if they stop swimming) and doesn't look traumatized at all. Our generation though, we are a lot less stoic. Times change.

thriftwy 9y ago

I think that throwaway2016a was speaking about an infant under year. Would you be hitting a newborn child? I bet you won't. What outcome would you ever expect here?

eanzenberg 9y ago
Not about hitting at all. It's about sleep training and crying-it-out, both of which can be done for infants > 6months old (we've done it with our boy).

DenisM 9y ago

> never complains about anything While convenient for others, this is not quite healthy. It's possible to traumatize a child into quiet and obedience, but times have changed and we don't approve of that anymore.

neverminder 9y ago
I believe he would laugh and say he doesn't have time to be traumatized. He's 86 and still going strong, always working on something, the man is like a shark (certain species of sharks die if they stop swimming) and doesn't look traumatized at all. Our generation though, we are a lot less stoic. Times change.