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this is huge, although i think this needed to come out earlier. rails deployment has already been generally pegged as 'hard' or a 'pain'. I have gotten use to g

this is huge, although i think this needed to come out earlier. rails deployment has already been generally pegged as 'hard' or a 'pain'. I have gotten use to getting a rails app coded fast then getting ready to spend some time deploying.

petercooper 19y ago
Do note that this is not the first attempt at this, however it looks. My own system (I say "my" loosely, it's public domain and open source) SwitchPipe: http://switchpipe.org/ http://switchpipe.org/ is already in widespread usage, but its focus is a little different.
- thomasswift 19y ago
  That is why i said it seems a little late. I remember stabbing my eyes out when i first got into rails once i tried deploying stuff, back in the fastcgi/lighttpd days. btw, switchpipe is going to rule the world in a few months, the support for all the other frameworks looks awesome.
  - petercooper 19y ago
    To be fair, fastcgi wasn't /too/ bad IF you actually had it running well at least once g and that varied incredibly from machine to machine, alas. It did use a similar underlying mechanism to most of these other alternatives, just in a rather messy way. I don't think SwitchPipe will rule anything, but perhaps once it's up on Github (instead of SVN) and I release the next version, more baby steps can be made. I'd love to make it even more simple somehow, and perhaps port it to a much faster base (probably Python).
    - thomasswift 19y ago
      fair enough :)
    - davidw 19y ago
      Yeah, I've had good luck with mod_fcgid, actually. I don't have that much traffic, but I like the fact that the software takes care of setting up and tearing down new instances of the application server, rather than having to take a wild guess at how many mongrel instances might be needed per virtual host. This is something that mod_rails also promises to do well.
- rbanffy 19y ago
  What would be the main advantages switchpipe has over the conventional mod_rewrite solution under Apache?
  - petercooper 19y ago
    I assume you mean over using mod_rewrite to do proxying direct to backend app servers? If so: - SwitchPipe controls backend app server processes. If an app isn't being used, it doesn't need to be running. - If an app is under heavy demand, I want more instances (up to a limit) to be launched to deal with it. - SwitchPipe deals with all of the port numbers. No port numbers to deal with as a user. Just some minor points, but with big usability gains.

petercooper 19y ago

Do note that this is not the first attempt at this, however it looks. My own system (I say "my" loosely, it's public domain and open source) SwitchPipe: http://switchpipe.org/ http://switchpipe.org/ is already in widespread usage, but its focus is a little different.

thomasswift 19y ago
That is why i said it seems a little late. I remember stabbing my eyes out when i first got into rails once i tried deploying stuff, back in the fastcgi/lighttpd days. btw, switchpipe is going to rule the world in a few months, the support for all the other frameworks looks awesome.
- petercooper 19y ago
  To be fair, fastcgi wasn't /too/ bad IF you actually had it running well at least once g and that varied incredibly from machine to machine, alas. It did use a similar underlying mechanism to most of these other alternatives, just in a rather messy way. I don't think SwitchPipe will rule anything, but perhaps once it's up on Github (instead of SVN) and I release the next version, more baby steps can be made. I'd love to make it even more simple somehow, and perhaps port it to a much faster base (probably Python).
  - thomasswift 19y ago
    fair enough :)
  - davidw 19y ago
    Yeah, I've had good luck with mod_fcgid, actually. I don't have that much traffic, but I like the fact that the software takes care of setting up and tearing down new instances of the application server, rather than having to take a wild guess at how many mongrel instances might be needed per virtual host. This is something that mod_rails also promises to do well.
rbanffy 19y ago
What would be the main advantages switchpipe has over the conventional mod_rewrite solution under Apache?
- petercooper 19y ago
  I assume you mean over using mod_rewrite to do proxying direct to backend app servers? If so: - SwitchPipe controls backend app server processes. If an app isn't being used, it doesn't need to be running. - If an app is under heavy demand, I want more instances (up to a limit) to be launched to deal with it. - SwitchPipe deals with all of the port numbers. No port numbers to deal with as a user. Just some minor points, but with big usability gains.