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This is more than a little puzzling at a time when socialism has proved a catastrophic failure in its remaining strongholds in Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.
by GuiA 9y ago
This is more than a little puzzling at a time when socialism has proved a catastrophic failure in its remaining strongholds in Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.
Except the socialist practices that young people are in favor for are mostly the hybrid modern ones European countries have, not the ones North Korea has, so this article just completely pretends to miss the point.
- megiddo 9y agoIt's all just degrees of suffering. European socialism is "not so bad" compared to North Korea, until you learn that Europeans on the whole are also significantly poorer than those in the US.
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- rev_bird 9y agoDegrees of suffering! How many people in Norway died from not being able to afford a trip to the hospital? How many medical bankruptcies have there been on that entire continent? Any at all?
- geofft 9y agoAs one of the people pushing up the average in the US (thanks to having a tech industry job in a big city), I would be quite happy to be significantly poorer if the poor of the US got significantly richer: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/15/extreme-poverty-america-un-special-monitor-report https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/15/extreme-povert...
- liotier 9y ago> European socialism is "not so bad" compared to North Korea, until you learn that Europeans on the whole are also significantly poorer than those in the US. Yes, if you define "poor" in terms of net income. I could at least double my salary by moving from Paris to California, yet my standards of living would plunge... I love paying taxes - and every trip to a low-tax country reminds me of that !
- salmonfamine 9y agoAnd as we all know, median income is a good measuring tool for the total health of a society.
- _wdh 9y agoQuality of life is more important than raw cash.
- beat 9y agoConflating "socialism" and with communism (specifically, Leninism/Stalinism and its children and grandchildren) is common as dirt. As soon as I see someone who can't make a distinction between "We should make sure people have health care" and "We should send a few million of our political enemies to break rocks until they die of exposure in Siberia", I assume they're simply too stupid to hold a reasonable conversation.